H&R Block - New WHQ Size

kurtiebird · Post by **kurtiebird** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:39 pm

Hey y'all, I've been trying to figure out the dimensions of the new "Right Guard" building. Specifically, what will the width and length of the oval be? I'm trying to get a mental picture of how many cubes/offices might fit on each floor.

You'd think the company would provide us with blueprints, so we could scope out our new digs, but no such luck. Nor can I find anything on the net that might suggest the building size. The best I can find is the following rendering (on this site):

http://www.kcskyscrapers.com/kcpics/pan ... per?full=1

Can somebody help me out?

GRID · Post by **GRID** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:59 pm

Last I heard it was 18 floors and 500,000 sq ft. I wish they would go to 25+ floors so the building doesn't get lost in the skyline, but I'll take it.

It is looking like this building will be very similar in size and height to 12 Wyandotte Plaza, the glass curved tower at 12 & Wyandotte.

WoodDraw · Post by **WoodDraw** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:01 pm

Are thre any rough ideas on how many sq ft. Phase II will be?

kurtiebird · Post by **kurtiebird** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:28 pm

Ok, I got really bored, so decided to figure it out for myself. Assuming that 500,000 sq ft is for the tower only (might be a bad guess, but who knows?):

500,000 / 18 = ~27,778 sq ft per floor
Area of an oval = pi * length * width

I figured a rough estimate of the length to width ratio, by measuring the pixels of the floor plan rendering (about 0.44444)

Length * Width * pi = 27,778

Length = ~141'
Width = ~63'

Does that seem fairly accurate? Now I just have to make a floor plan (like I said, I'm bored).

scooterj · Post by **scooterj** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:09 pm

That seems kinda small, I don't think that's right. My loft is 61' long, and it's hard for me to imagine a high-rise office building only 2 feet wider than the length of my loft being much use.

Tomorrow on my break I'll pace out the dimensions of what seems to be the foundation hole and see what that comes out to. It won' exactly be precise but it ought to give you a general ballpark.

GRID · Post by **GRID** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:14 pm

That's leasible office space. The actually size including elevator shafts, common halls, atriums, retail, storage, mechanical rooms etc bring it up much higher.

Post by **bahua** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:21 pm

Don't forget body storage and audit conditioning chambers.

tat2kc · Post by **tat2kc** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 3:56 pm

talk about too much time on your hands!!

kurtiebird, you win the prize for development geek of the week!

kurtiebird · Post by **kurtiebird** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 6:46 pm

Grid, that makes a lot of sense. I'd be interested in hearing the results of Scooter's scientific analysis to see how far off I am.

I don't know if I'm so much a development geek; I just can't wait to move into our new building. And it's two years away!

scooterj · Post by **scooterj** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:59 pm

I didn't get a chance to pace it off today but I'm going back down sometime tomorrow to take a new photo so I'll get your estimate then.

kucer · Post by **kucer** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:40 am

WoodDraw wrote:Are thre any rough ideas on how many sq ft. Phase II will be?

I believe 250,000 sq ft.

scooterj · Post by **scooterj** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 1:55 pm

Ok, for my very unscientific analysis I compared the existing hole to renderings and then made visual landmarks on an adjacent block (since I can't exactly go poking around in the construction site) and then paced it off. Measuring my typical walking pace and multiplying it out, I come up with an exterior length of 202 feet and a width of 78 feet.

If anyone ever find out the real numbers I'd love to find out which came closer... kurtiebird's trigonometry or my boy scout technique.

kurtiebird · Post by **kurtiebird** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:42 pm

Ok, so two more things that make my first guess way off (besides Grid's point about the leasable office space):

1) only 15 floors of office space
2) area of ellipse = pi * 1/2 length * 1/2 width

And math used to be my strong suit... I'm not even gonna try to tackle this one again mathematically.

However, I did notice a row of parking spaces that line up with where the building edges might be (on the short edge), it looks like about 11. According to KCMO ordinances:

http://www.kcmo.org/codes.nsf/web/ch052 ... ment#52-38

Parking spaces should be between 7.5 and 8.5 feet. So,

11 x 7.5 = 82.5
11 x 8.5 = 93.5

So the building ought to be about 85 feet wide (and 191 feet long), not far off scooterj's analysis.