2010 - 2011 College Football Season

[KCPowercat]

To clarify, institutions keep 1/2 of the revenue of any tickets sold over what the conference guarantees to each bowl game (up to one half over of what the conference promises)....given they don't violate any of the big 12 bowl rules. They also retain any expenses not used...so a team could travel cheap and keep some revenue.

That being said when fans say their team is getting a $X payout from a bowl they generally think the school gets all that bowl money....which is false, conference splits all of that.....but yes there are some additional revenue streams a school gets from a bigger bowl given their fans sell the tickets.

Got this from the big 13 handbook appendix iv

[KC-wildcat]

To clarify, institutions keep 1/2 of the revenue of any tickets sold over what the conference guarantees to each bowl game (up to one half over of what the conference promises)....given they don't violate any of the big 12 bowl rules. They also retain any expenses not used...so a team could travel cheap and keep some revenue.

That being said when fans say their team is getting a $X payout from a bowl they generally think the school gets all that bowl money....which is false, conference splits all of that.....but yes there are some additional revenue streams a school gets from a bigger bowl given their fans sell the tickets.

Got this from the big 13 handbook appendix iv

In some conferences, they also have a tierred payout system which guarantees a bonus, on top of the base divided payout, for BCS bowl game appearances.  Don't know if this is true in Big XII. 

[KCPowercat]

Its not according to section 2.4 that says all revenue from member institutions participating in football bowl gamed shall be divided equally among all member institutions after expense allowances.

[KCMax]

Missouri stars to test NFL interest

Missouri defensive ends Aldon and Jacquies Smith and quarterback Blaine Gabbert and tight end Michael Egnew told PowerMizzou.com Sunday that they will enter their names for consideration in the 2011 NFL draft.

The expectation is that all four will wind up returning to Missouri, Jacquies Smith, Gabbert and Egnew for their senior seasons and Aldon Smith for his junior year.

[Highlander]

Missouri stars to test NFL interest

I hope the expectations are correct.  Although Franklin is every bit as competent as Gabbert, the defensive players and Egnew would be a huge loss.  With the Smith's back, a healthy Dominique Hamilton (imo the best player on Mizzou's defense) and Sheldon Richardson joining next year, it could be the best defense in the big 12 (-2) and among the best in the nation (although secondary still needs work).  Egnew would probably be the most likely to leave. 

[phna]

Why Iowa and Missouri have not met on the football field for 100 years.

"The rivalry dates to 1892, when the Hawkeyes lost 22-0 in Columbia, Mo.

It ended, according to an article on the Iowa alumni website, when Missouri refused to allow a black Iowa player to participate in a game on Oct. 15, 1910."

http://hawkcentral.com/2010/12/18/iowa- ... never-was/

[LenexatoKCMO]

Why Iowa and Missouri have not met on the football field for 100 years.

"The rivalry dates to 1892, when the Hawkeyes lost 22-0 in Columbia, Mo.

It ended, according to an article on the Iowa alumni website, when Missouri refused to allow a black Iowa player to participate in a game on Oct. 15, 1910."

http://hawkcentral.com/2010/12/18/iowa- ... never-was/

MU was a Plessy school; paying the neighbor states to take their minority students in order to maintain an all-white school for many, many years. 

[AllThingsKC]

"Even though we just lost to you 22-0, you're racist!  So there."

[phna]

We'll I wouldn't call it a rivlary. And the history is a matter of fact.

"The Iowa City Vidette-Reporter (the University of Iowa?s student newspaper) reported ?When Missouri?s team came on the field, they were heartily cheered with the Tigers? yell, followed by appeals from the rooters to individual players to ?kill the n*****?. There was hardly a man on Iowa?s team who did not receive a cowardly blow from the Tigers. Several were hit while on the ground. One man received at least three blows from the fists of the Tigers. Not for ten seconds did one of Iowa?s men forget himself or lose his temper. At all times they placed themselves near and about Holbrook.? See University of Iowa Football, by Chuck Bright, Page 43-44."

For additional information on the history of this non-rivalry, read the book ?University of Iowa Football? by Chuck Bright.

Notwithstanding Mizzous Plessy history, this will just be a football game.  Just don't mention Plessy to Iowa's DE Clayborn.

[AllThingsKC]

Yes, and clearly the University of Iowa was so offended by the actions of Mizzou officials, players, and fans, that they had no problem playing Mizzou in basketball and other sports.  Hmmm...

[KCPowercat]

Using a sad time in this country's history as sports smack talk is pretty disgusting.

[LenexatoKCMO]

Using a sad time in this country's history as sports smack talk is pretty disgusting.

It is history that shapes our local rivalries.  The two teams are even named after historic militias - one pro-slavery, one anti-slavery.  Just because one school is on the wrong side of history, doesn't mean that the whole thing should be whitewashed or ignored. 

[KCPowercat]

I am fully for remembering our history. Not using it for 'your team sucks' though. Maybe just me.

[phna]

It's your interpretation it's smack talk, notice I said this will just be a football game. It it just history that has been mentioned in the write ups to the game. I mentioned Clayborn for 2 reasons, 1) Hes an All American DE 2) he let his emotions get to him when a taxi driver lobbed a racial epithet at him, he got so enraged he had to be restrained. He was charged, and they were eventually dropped. He learned his lesson.

[KCPowercat]

I wasn't necessarily speaking to your exact post. This ku v mu stuff constantly goes down to slavery and I think its sick.

I'm sure there is a ku fan that throws around "slavers" that has some slavery skeletons in their family closet.....should that person today get the same treatment?

[phna]

It is history that shapes our local rivalries.  The two teams are even named after historic militias - one pro-slavery, one anti-slavery.  Just because one school is on the wrong side of history, doesn't mean that the whole thing should be whitewashed or ignored. 

I don't know about Missouri, but Hawkeye is from JF Coopers, Last of the Mohicans taking place about 1757 almost 100 years prior to American Civil War. Not sure what your reference is?

[LenexatoKCMO]

I wasn't necessarily speaking to your exact post. This ku v mu stuff constantly goes down to slavery and I think its sick.

I'm sure there is a ku fan that throws around "slavers" that has some slavery skeletons in their family closet.....should that person today get the same treatment?

The ugly racial history in Columbia goes well beyond slavery into much more recent history.  Their celebration of regional slavery interests through the mascot may be in poor taste, but their decades of maintaining an all white campus is a much more direct reflection on the institution itself.  

[Highlander]

It is history that shapes our local rivalries.  The two teams are even named after historic militias - one pro-slavery, one anti-slavery.  Just because one school is on the wrong side of history, doesn't mean that the whole thing should be whitewashed or ignored. 

It's hard to follow this debate but what militia are you suggesting was pro-slavery...the Tigers?  That would be historically inaccurate.  Missouri's Tigers, or I should say, the Columbia Tigers, was established as a defense against marauding confederates as there were several confederate army incursions into the state (including the one that culminated in the Battle of Wesport).  As I have said before, Missouri was a union state that sent regiments to both sides during the civil war but the vast majority of Missourians who fought in the conflict, fought for the north.    

[KCPowercat]

MU is all white for decades? 

It seems to me using this subject for sports smack trivializes the issue. 

[Highlander]

A little more about the Tiger mascot from the Missouri Civil War museum:

The mascot of the University of Missouri is a “tiger” but it is not actually named in honor of the beautiful animal as many people would think it is.  Just like the Kansas Jayhawks, Missouri also has a mascot that relates to the American Civil War.  The truth is the Missouri Tigers are named in honor of a Missouri Union militia unit that guarded the area of Columbia, Missouri (MU’s hometown) as well as the university itself during the American Civil War.  The true “Missouri Tigers” were a Union “Home Guard” militia unit made up of local men from the area around Columbia.  Their duties were to protect the University of Missouri and the area from approaching Confederate forces, pro-Confederate guerillas, desperadoes and others that may have threatened the area.

In fact, the Union army actually came onto the university’s campus in 1864 and took up residency on the campus in order to completely protect it from threatening pro-Confederate forces that were reportedly in the area.  According to the University of Missouri, “one of these guerrilla bands that threatened to sack the town was that of the notorious Bloody Bill Anderson.” College classes were cancelled and the students were sent home for the semester until the danger had passed.  While on campus, the soldiers patrolled the grounds and even stayed in the President’s residence and other important buildings.  The town's constant state of preparedness is credited in preventing this attack and its reputation helped discourage other Confederate guerilla activity from occurring around the university during the remainder of the war. 

In the 1890s, the University of Missouri’s first football team was organized and the athletic committee adopted the nickname "Tigers" to officially honor and recognize the fighting spirit of those Civil War Union home guards that protected the university and the area surrounding Columbia, Missouri.