Is this suggesting downtown overall had a diversity of services, or that “Macy’s on Main” as it was ultimately called, was one of the chain’s true flagships (435,000 sq ft) with all services including places to eat and special events programming, which it most certainly was.Elrod wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:10 pmBuild a Costco on top of the Home Depot, you say? Well, it WOULD be increased density. So to speak. Plus it would free up some additional room for other things.
There would have to be some sort of freight elevator arrangement for movement of goods in and out, since everything wouldn't be on ground level any more.
Maybe stack a Super Target on top of both of them while we're at it?
There could be some sort of service to do deliveries, like UberShops or something. You could either shop the store in person or online, pay for goods, and then have them delivered to your home. UberShops could work out something with TargetCostHome so that you could scan everything into an app on your phone, create a QR-coded order, and send it to your Uber. The Uber person could then meet the store staff at the dock. The store staff then scans the QR code that the app sent them on your authorization which tells them what to load. The Uber person delivers to your home at a time of your choosing. Much better than pushing a buggy around and schlepping your stuff all over the store.
Costco has a little food court in the front. Come to think of it, Target has something like this too. The Target near me serves personal pan pizzas from Pizza Hut. Also has popcorn, etc. Across from it on the other side of the front door is a mini-Starbucks, because the space was just sitting there, and Starbucks abhors a vacuum. Point is, there could be somewhere to eat in the TargetCostHome, too.
This all seems familiar, somehow. I think there used to be a place like this in downtown KC, a long time ago.
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Looks like the Dunkin is about to begin construction. Permit for the foundation:KCtoBrooklyn wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:49 pm Yes, that's the dispensary. Looks like it is getting close to opening.
I believe the Dunkin was planned for the lot just to the east of Taco Bell. I am not certain if it is still moving forward.
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Bad timing. Ideally Home Depot would be semi surrounded by street level urbane development along Linwood/Main rather than suburban style pad sites but it probably won't be realized until after streetcar expansion is operating.
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This may be unbelievable to some, but one-stop shopping did exist in downtowns all throughout the country, dating back to WW1. If you moved to a new town for a new job, you could go to the downtown department store and kit out the entire house, including appliances, rugs, beds, clothing, small electronics, even food and beverage to some extent. And the store would deliver the whole shebang -- into each room as indicated. This is how well-to-do people operated in those days, and it was apparently a century ahead of its time. You didn't even have to have an automobile LOL -- just take the streetcar. The department store operated a fleet of vehicles and movers.Philacav wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:48 pm Is this suggesting downtown overall had a diversity of services, or that “Macy’s on Main” as it was ultimately called, was one of the chain’s true flagships (435,000 sq ft) with all services including places to eat and special events programming, which it most certainly was.
Things operated this way until the 1970s and then the whole model fell apart. Many reasons why, but largely because of the advent of discounters undercutting the downtown department stores. My grandparents' entire household, when they relocated to KC circa 1922 from their respective parents' homes in Iowa, was outfitted and delivered to Hyde Park by downtown stores. I have the receipts still for some of the orders.
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This. Thanks, herrfrank!herrfrank wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:58 pmThis may be unbelievable to some, but one-stop shopping did exist in downtowns all throughout the country, dating back to WW1. If you moved to a new town for a new job, you could go to the downtown department store and kit out the entire house, including appliances, rugs, beds, clothing, small electronics, even food and beverage to some extent. And the store would deliver the whole shebang -- into each room as indicated. This is how well-to-do people operated in those days, and it was apparently a century ahead of its time. You didn't even have to have an automobile LOL -- just take the streetcar. The department store operated a fleet of vehicles and movers.Philacav wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:48 pm Is this suggesting downtown overall had a diversity of services, or that “Macy’s on Main” as it was ultimately called, was one of the chain’s true flagships (435,000 sq ft) with all services including places to eat and special events programming, which it most certainly was.
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Is the Dunkin on Linwood dead now? It's been 4 months since there was any action on compass.KCtoBrooklyn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:38 pm Looks like the Dunkin is about to begin construction. Permit for the foundation:
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800 apartments planned on top of an LA Costco. Very interesting. I would move to the Kirkland Signature apartments in a heartbeat
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Wonder if the Midtdown Linwood store could be retro-fitted into something like this w/out temporarily closing the store.
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It's an interesting idea. I think it makes sense to do here if Costco wants to remain in the heart of the city. At the same time, it would feel weird to live above a wholesale warehouse store. The design screams Los Angeles to me. Never been out there, but it has that look to it that I associate with Southern California.Cratedigger wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 6:30 pm 800 apartments planned on top of an LA Costco. Very interesting. I would move to the Kirkland Signature apartments in a heartbeat
You would probably have to close portions of the store off to put new foundation piers in and redesign the store to fit a residential lobby, elevator, stairs, and necessary plumbing/electrical systems.
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A better strategy here (or at least a shorter-term strategy) would be to build along Main and Linwood in the existing parking lot. The parking area is already dug down far enough to allow for some hidden parking as needed. And enough parking would remain to service both Home Depot and Costco.
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Agreed. There's a big enough footprint that could simultaneously build both a new Costco and Home Depot with residential on top and keep the existing stores completely open. Sure it might be a longer walk to park during the construction, but there's just SO. MUCH. SPACE.smh wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:17 am A better strategy here (or at least a shorter-term strategy) would be to build along Main and Linwood in the existing parking lot. The parking area is already dug down far enough to allow for some hidden parking as needed. And enough parking would remain to service both Home Depot and Costco.
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There will never be a residential Costco or Home Depot building in this spot. The absolute best you could do would be to ring the development with more buildings similar to how the Billies Grocery is situated on Gillham, Linwood and Main. Even from the picture above, you can see that most of the lots are full (this looks like a slow day). They'll never give those spaces up.
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A good start would be flipping that McDonalds lot
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I bet you neither of those lots are 50% full.beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:47 pm There will never be a residential Costco or Home Depot building in this spot. The absolute best you could do would be to ring the development with more buildings similar to how the Billies Grocery is situated on Gillham, Linwood and Main. Even from the picture above, you can see that most of the lots are full (this looks like a slow day). They'll never give those spaces up.
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Costco is fairly consistently 50-60% full. Totally full before holidays. Home Depot is probably 30-40% full. Glass recycling lot could definitely be taken. South side of Costco along Gillham could be taken. North side of Costco along Linwood could be taken. Filling all the existing pad spots on Linwood and Main should be the first, and pretty easy, goal.smh wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:57 pmI bet you neither of those lots are 50% full.beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:47 pm There will never be a residential Costco or Home Depot building in this spot. The absolute best you could do would be to ring the development with more buildings similar to how the Billies Grocery is situated on Gillham, Linwood and Main. Even from the picture above, you can see that most of the lots are full (this looks like a slow day). They'll never give those spaces up.
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I'd like to move some of the random businesses on the Northside of Linwood across from the Taco Bell, Costco, etc. and build new residential there. Looking to get a lot of residential to fill in from 31st street south to Linwood.
The Liquor Store, China Feast, Used Car Lot, Auto Zone. Look to move them over and incorporate them into the sites to the South. Isn't there still an empty lot/pad site. just East of Taco Bell that extends to the stop light that services the Entrance by Costco?
I could be wrong. But moving some of those retails spots over with the other retail would allow for the site to be ringed with residential a bit more
The Liquor Store, China Feast, Used Car Lot, Auto Zone. Look to move them over and incorporate them into the sites to the South. Isn't there still an empty lot/pad site. just East of Taco Bell that extends to the stop light that services the Entrance by Costco?
I could be wrong. But moving some of those retails spots over with the other retail would allow for the site to be ringed with residential a bit more
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ANormalDayInRu ... apartment/beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:47 pm There will never be a residential Costco or Home Depot building in this spot. The absolute best you could do would be to ring the development with more buildings similar to how the Billies Grocery is situated on Gillham, Linwood and Main. Even from the picture above, you can see that most of the lots are full (this looks like a slow day). They'll never give those spaces up.
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Not sure where to put this: It looks like they have put fencing up at the old funeral home- Main and Linwood. I don’t know if this is NFL Draft related being used as worker/overflow parking, whether they are just trying to keep cars off the lot for liability purposes or if they are going to raze the building.
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People are dying to get in there.
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