My priorities are probably different than yours. I'm totally cool if the Royals do some mid-rise housing adding residents inside the loop downtown without a marquee tower in phase one or even ever I couldn't honestly give a shit about towers, I care more about infill and density. I also don't need some beautiful streetscape around the stadium to be 100% there the same day the ballpark opens. The only places where stadium and streetscape coexist well are where they've been growing together for 100+ years. Stadiums create dead zones that need to be overcome either by time or by masterplanning. I'd rather see a large scale masterplan infill a completely empty part of DT rather than replace an area I already enjoy.The appeal of an urban stadium for me is the ability to access it easily by a mode other than personal vehicle, and to synergy with existing DT assets. EV achieves both of those criteria fine with out any potential to harm existing areas that are finding their own success.UMKC Roo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:07 pmThe streetscape around EV is just so horrifically bad. Imagine they put stadium with horrific EV streetscape *and* you don’t get any high-rise there either. It would be a very sad waste of potential for Royals stadium.FlippantCitizen wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:04 pm "East Crossroads" is kind of hiding the ball as to what people are really advocating for. Y'all want the stadium to come right up to Grand right? That's just the Crossroads. East Crossroads is east of Oak, at least IMO.
I don’t see how there is salvaging the EV situation unless there’s some high-rise to make up for lack of streetscape.
Sidenote, I told my wife who is from Chicago about the push by some voices to put the ballpark in the Crossroads. Her immediate response was "you can't just recreate Wrigleyville by putting a stadium in the Crossroads." I could not have agreed more with her assessment.