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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
The article mentions that the group didn't want the images released to the public because they needed 'refinement' so hopefully there is still some room for improvement, like for full length awnings. Also, bench seating for streetcars only faces east - should be staggered between NB and SB streetcars.
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Full length awning with 2 full length benches back to back would be simple and effective. Same for bus stop with one long bench.
However if they don't do that in other parts of metro it's a custom solution requiring custom maintenance. That might be the thinking of using standard stop shelters in a row.
However if they don't do that in other parts of metro it's a custom solution requiring custom maintenance. That might be the thinking of using standard stop shelters in a row.
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Let's say that's the main reason. They could put six of them in place, tighter together.earthling wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:30 am Full length awning with 2 full length benches back to back would be simple and effective. Same for bus stop with one long bench.
However if they don't do that in other parts of metro it's a custom solution requiring custom maintenance. That might be the thinking of using standard stop shelters in a row.
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
1 continuous line of benches divides the platform.earthling wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:30 am Full length awning with 2 full length benches back to back would be simple and effective. Same for bus stop with one long bench.
However if they don't do that in other parts of metro it's a custom solution requiring custom maintenance. That might be the thinking of using standard stop shelters in a row.
I agree that the awnings should be extended if possible (similar to a traditional LR station) but there is probably enough seating already. Benches take the places of multiple standing passengers and most passengers won’t be waiting that long for a train.
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
One long bench thing would be annoying. One long awning with breaks in it to go between would be nice.
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Look at the McGowen stop in Houston. That's kind of what I pictureKCPowercat wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:57 am One long bench thing would be annoying. One long awning with breaks in it to go between would be nice.
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Thanks, I thought that station was secured.
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Streetcar Authority Reveals Concepts for New Stops on Main, CC Plaza
https://cityscenekc.com/streetcar-autho ... -cc-plaza/
Ditch the glass roof design on the stops. I don't understand why anyone would force people to sit in the hot sun on a 100 degree day without proper shade.
https://cityscenekc.com/streetcar-autho ... -cc-plaza/
Ditch the glass roof design on the stops. I don't understand why anyone would force people to sit in the hot sun on a 100 degree day without proper shade.
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Kcpd instructions if I recall correctly
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
That stop should have a Spanish look. Red Tile Roof. Smooth concrete archways holding it up. Think LA Union Station.FangKC wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:23 am Streetcar Authority Reveals Concepts for New Stops on Main, CC Plaza
https://cityscenekc.com/streetcar-autho ... -cc-plaza/
Ditch the glass roof design on the stops. I don't understand why anyone would force people to sit in the hot sun on a 100 degree day without proper shade.
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Why? It's not on the Plaza and there's multiple buildings equally far away without a Spanish look.Midtownkid wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:10 pm
That stop should have a Spanish look. Red Tile Roof. Smooth concrete archways holding it up. Think LA Union Station.
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
It's the Plaza stop.flyingember wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:39 pmWhy? It's not on the Plaza and there's multiple buildings equally far away without a Spanish look.Midtownkid wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:10 pm
That stop should have a Spanish look. Red Tile Roof. Smooth concrete archways holding it up. Think LA Union Station.
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
why not?flyingember wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:39 pmWhy? It's not on the Plaza and there's multiple buildings equally far away without a Spanish look.Midtownkid wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:10 pm
That stop should have a Spanish look. Red Tile Roof. Smooth concrete archways holding it up. Think LA Union Station.
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Branding consistency. A rider always can look for the same stop in the same colors. Don’t underestimate the value of this for a new rider.mister816 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:24 pmwhy not?flyingember wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:39 pmWhy? It's not on the Plaza and there's multiple buildings equally far away without a Spanish look.Midtownkid wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:10 pm
That stop should have a Spanish look. Red Tile Roof. Smooth concrete archways holding it up. Think LA Union Station.
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
So for the plaza stop, northbound has a dedicated bus lane and shelters. What about southbound?
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
At the Plaza stop, both lanes of the streetcar and the dedicated bus lanes will be on the east side of Main in a transit plaza. It shows that in the rendering if you take another look.
My question is where will the UMKC stop be? Does it move to the Wiggings trail, in the old ROW, at that point?
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
This document on the website has the entire corridor alignment on itshinatoo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:15 amAt the Plaza stop, both lanes of the streetcar and the dedicated bus lanes will be on the east side of Main in a transit plaza. It shows that in the rendering if you take another look.
My question is where will the UMKC stop be? Does it move to the Wiggings trail, in the old ROW, at that point?
http://kcstreetcar.org/wp-content/uploa ... gnment.pdf
Can even see an extension of the trail on it.
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
There's a video of the streetcar running from Union Station south to UMKC on the KCStreetcar Main St Extension page as well...
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
What's going on with the trail crossing the street at Westport Rd?flyingember wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:36 amThis document on the website has the entire corridor alignment on itshinatoo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:15 amAt the Plaza stop, both lanes of the streetcar and the dedicated bus lanes will be on the east side of Main in a transit plaza. It shows that in the rendering if you take another look.
My question is where will the UMKC stop be? Does it move to the Wiggings trail, in the old ROW, at that point?
http://kcstreetcar.org/wp-content/uploa ... gnment.pdf
Can even see an extension of the trail on it.