TSC Renovations
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Pretty shitty finished product. Agree with Lenexa on the white KC on blue. Reminds me of those terrible gangster white Royals hats..
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Hopefully for the 2010 season they went back and fixed some of the cosmetic items they seemed to overlook, like cracked/broken concrete steps, leaking/rusted pipes and the dirt hill on the east side of the stadium. I'm still disappointed in the overall renovation. For another $100m, we could of had a brand new, sparkling dt ballpark.
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I can't believe Minnesota approached $600 million on thier park and could not get a retractable roof included.
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A $600 million park that looks remarkably like a clone of The New K from many angles.gsmith601 wrote: I can't believe Minnesota approached $600 million on thier park and could not get a retractable roof included.
With outdoor parks in Detroit, Minneapolis, and Cleveland, the AL central needs to consolidate its season to May-September just to avoid all the snow.
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A columnist here in Omaha, Tom Shatel, toured Target Field. Said it's an improvement (obviously) over the Metrodome but did say there's nothing that really distinguishes it from any of the other new fields that have opened in the post Camden era.
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I think the only real thing that distinguishes a one post-Camden park from the other anymore is the view that is framed in the outfield and the experience outside the stadium.gsmith601 wrote: A columnist here in Omaha, Tom Shatel, toured Target Field. Said it's an improvement (obviously) over the Metrodome but did say there's nothing that really distinguishes it from any of the other new fields that have opened in the post Camden era.
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My reaction to Minute Maid Park: "Ooh, it looks retro, cool"
My reaction to new Busch: "Ooh, it looks retro, cool"
My reaction to the new upgrades to US Cellular: "Ooh, it looks retro, updated version of Kauffman, cool"
My reaction to Miller Park: "Roof's pretty big, but at least it looks retro!"
Seriously, teams wanting to turn their stadium into generic retro-style malls has become a terrible mark on the game.
My reaction to new Busch: "Ooh, it looks retro, cool"
My reaction to the new upgrades to US Cellular: "Ooh, it looks retro, updated version of Kauffman, cool"
My reaction to Miller Park: "Roof's pretty big, but at least it looks retro!"
Seriously, teams wanting to turn their stadium into generic retro-style malls has become a terrible mark on the game.
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What is the final cost of Target Field? I have seen several diffrent price tags ranging from $522 million to $640 million.
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I did listen to a podcast of Soren's show on 810. He's disputing that when Glass sells the team about whether or not they can make a profit.
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My understanding was he could make a profit as long as the team stayed local. If he sold it to an out of town interest, with the intention of moving the franchise, he could not profit. Seams pretty easy to skirt that issue.
Personally I think he made the renovation price tag so ridiculously high that he thought "there is no way anyone will vote for this boondoggle". Expecting it to fail he could get out of the lease. Sell to a owner that "promised" not to move the team but would have an out if he couldn't come to new lease terms with the city.
Glass's plan fell apart when my fellow idiots in JackCo passed that stupid tax. And to add insult to injury, they didn't pass the rolling roof.
Personally I think he made the renovation price tag so ridiculously high that he thought "there is no way anyone will vote for this boondoggle". Expecting it to fail he could get out of the lease. Sell to a owner that "promised" not to move the team but would have an out if he couldn't come to new lease terms with the city.
Glass's plan fell apart when my fellow idiots in JackCo passed that stupid tax. And to add insult to injury, they didn't pass the rolling roof.
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^^^IMO KC got away with a nice renovation that was pretty cheap compared to the price tags on some of these new ballparks.^^^
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Not only that, some of them like Minute Maid Park in Houston, just are not nice stadiums. I kind of felt like I was in a huge refurbished warehouse or part of some kind of a massive Disney Studio. The place just doesn't feel right; if it's going to be retro, make it look retro not some cheap modern design that attempts a retro feel.TheSmokinPun wrote: My reaction to Minute Maid Park: "Ooh, it looks retro, cool"
My reaction to new Busch: "Ooh, it looks retro, cool"
My reaction to the new upgrades to US Cellular: "Ooh, it looks retro, updated version of Kauffman, cool"
My reaction to Miller Park: "Roof's pretty big, but at least it looks retro!"
Seriously, teams wanting to turn their stadium into generic retro-style malls has become a terrible mark on the game.
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I felt like I was in Bank One Ballpark (airplane hanger) with a train.Highlander wrote: Not only that, some of them like Minute Maid Park in Houston, just are not nice stadiums. I kind of felt like I was in a huge refurbished warehouse or part of some kind of a massive Disney Studio. The place just doesn't feel right; if it's going to be retro, make it look retro not some cheap modern design that attempts a retro feel.
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They also got away with a small fraction of the attendance bump teams that build new stadiums typically enjoy.mykem wrote: ^^^IMO KC got away with a nice renovation that was pretty cheap compared to the price tags on some of these new ballparks.^^^
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As more and more teams moved into look alike retro stadiums the attendance bump has not been what it was in years past, and it did not last as long. The Twins will be the exception because of what they are moving out of.
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http://www.delish.com/food-fun/baseball ... m-hot-dogs
Is this good? Not sure what blue cheese has to do with KC, but....
Any Italian Sausages served at Kaufmann these days?
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bbqboy wrote:
http://www.delish.com/food-fun/baseball ... m-hot-dogs
Is this good? Not sure what blue cheese has to do with KC, but....
Any Italian Sausages served at Kaufmann these days?
They should replace this with an illegal sonoran dog!
Oops- looks like the Angels got it first!
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I had the Kansas City Dog last Thursday, wish the Swiss cheese would have been melted and the bun was pretty cold, but other than that, pretty good. The new hot dog carts are great, little high in price though with no option without the chips.bbqboy wrote:
http://www.delish.com/food-fun/baseball ... m-hot-dogs
Is this good? Not sure what blue cheese has to do with KC, but....
Any Italian Sausages served at Kaufmann these days?
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Target Field is not a retro ball park.gsmith601 wrote: As more and more teams moved into look alike retro stadiums the attendance bump has not been what it was in years past, and it did not last as long. The Twins will be the exception because of what they are moving out of.
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I was going to comment on that too. Just seeing it on ESPN, did not look retro, but did look very nice. I don't have a problem with retro, but if someone were to build retro, it needs to fit into an existing city block with odd angles and upper deck supports that obscure the view for fans sittingbehind them.MidtownCat wrote: Target Field is not a retro ball park.