KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

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smh wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:36 am
langosta wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 6:26 pm JetBlue: no mid continent hub but will need one to challenge United, Delta, American, and Southwest
Southwest: capacity constrained at MDW and DAL. STL connecting operation provides sub par experience. Denver took a lot of this need. Maybe we could grab STL if they don’t end up building a new terminal in 2026 like they’ve been taking about.
Any chance MCI takes load off of DEN in the future? I'm pretty ignorant in this area, but my anecdotal experience is that the Denver terminals continue to feel overrun by humanity the last several times I've flown through.

None. Denver is their largest city with plenty of space for growth.
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langosta wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:09 am
smh wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:36 am
langosta wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 6:26 pm JetBlue: no mid continent hub but will need one to challenge United, Delta, American, and Southwest
Southwest: capacity constrained at MDW and DAL. STL connecting operation provides sub par experience. Denver took a lot of this need. Maybe we could grab STL if they don’t end up building a new terminal in 2026 like they’ve been taking about.
Any chance MCI takes load off of DEN in the future? I'm pretty ignorant in this area, but my anecdotal experience is that the Denver terminals continue to feel overrun by humanity the last several times I've flown through.

None. Denver is their largest city with plenty of space for growth.
Agree with this. Denver is more likely to take from others at this point, than anyone need to take a load off them.
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dev49 wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:44 am
langosta wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:09 am
smh wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:36 am
Any chance MCI takes load off of DEN in the future? I'm pretty ignorant in this area, but my anecdotal experience is that the Denver terminals continue to feel overrun by humanity the last several times I've flown through.

None. Denver is their largest city with plenty of space for growth.
Agree with this. Denver is more likely to take from others at this point, than anyone need to take a load off them.
The only thing I would think is potential for rerouting due to weather.
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KCI covers 16 square miles. DEN covers 54 square miles. Yeah I doubt they'll be outgrowing DEN anytime soon.
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Saw this article posted on another site.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerosp ... 023-07-21/


This would trim the maximum range, which Airbus officially pegs at 4,700 nautical miles (8,700 km). One told Reuters the changes would knock some 200 nm (370 km) off the practical range, which was closer to 4,000 nm in normal operations.


If above is true that would almost rule out all of Europe for us and would be a major bummer.

Basically leaves Dublin and puts London on the edge.
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?R=3800nm%40mci
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Frontier to PHX is back for Nov/Dec.

Alaska cut SEA back to one flight a day in Jan/Feb.
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Spring Break Southwest schedules drop this week. Any expectations?
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langosta wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:42 pm Spring Break Southwest schedules drop this week. Any expectations?
Not sure if I “expect” anything but if we were to get anything new I would think this would be one of the prime releases for it. Especially beach related. Might just mean more flights to places we already beach flights or something coming back sooner than summer. I am curious to see if Cabo and Montego Bay stick around for this.
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dev49 wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:32 pm
langosta wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:42 pm Spring Break Southwest schedules drop this week. Any expectations?
Not sure if I “expect” anything but if we were to get anything new I would think this would be one of the prime releases for it. Especially beach related. Might just mean more flights to places we already beach flights or something coming back sooner than summer. I am curious to see if Cabo and Montego Bay stick around for this.
I'm hoping they'll finally get around to launching CHS.
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langosta wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:42 pm Spring Break Southwest schedules drop this week. Any expectations?
Cabo and Jamaica extended with Saturday service. Cancun extended with at least daily service.
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langosta wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:42 pm Spring Break Southwest schedules drop this week. Any expectations?
From the man himself: https://twitter.com/JustinMeyerKC/statu ... 11520?s=20
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I really would love to see KC get a flight to Palm Springs, it would make for a great East Coast Connecting spot for Southwest. Could even work as an Allegiant seasonal flight. Palm Springs/Coachella Valley is growing from a tourism standpoint and its a great change of pace to Florida for sunshine/golf.
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Good to see the gains we got.

Full system update for those interested.

https://wieck-swa-production.s3-us-west ... 463b47f736
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langosta wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:07 am
langosta wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:42 pm Spring Break Southwest schedules drop this week. Any expectations?
Cabo and Jamaica extended with Saturday service. Cancun extended with at least daily service.
Would like to see Punata Cana, San Juan, and maybe Costa Rica next.
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Looks like Air Canada cut the season back. Now end Sept 4. Scheduled to return next May.
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dev49 wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:17 pm Looks like Air Canada cut the season back. Now end Sept 4. Scheduled to return next May.
How are loads? I don't know anyone who is back to flying this route.
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langosta wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:35 pm
dev49 wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:17 pm Looks like Air Canada cut the season back. Now end Sept 4. Scheduled to return next May.
How are loads? I don't know anyone who is back to flying this route.
This flight needs to be a few hours earlier, it would be the perfect flight for connections to Europe, landing at 730pm is simply too late for most Europe connections
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Interested to see if we get Sun Country in 2024. Doesn't look like their current schedule extends pat early January (KC ends in November for the season).
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dev49 wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:51 am Good to see the gains we got.

Full system update for those interested.

https://wieck-swa-production.s3-us-west ... 463b47f736
March flight numbers for WN at KC

Fri 75
Sat 70
Sun 79

News out of the St. Louis master plan that Southwest plans to take 22 gates at their terminal
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langosta wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:33 pm Interested to see if we get Sun Country in 2024. Doesn't look like their current schedule extends pat early January (KC ends in November for the season).
As long as MLS uses them I figure they will stick around unless the loads are terrible. Like under 30%
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