Office project at 27th & Main
- normalthings
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Re: Office project at 27th & Main
There is no movement on this from my sources
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Project is stalled (until things pick up I assume)
Said part of there pitch was having available Class A space in their building
https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... tower.html
Said part of there pitch was having available Class A space in their building
https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... tower.html
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Just as well. Maybe in the interim this site can be rethought in terms what should be at a street car station.
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With about 25% Class A available in Crown Center/downtown and still high construction costs they may be rethinking strategy if they can get a good deal on existing CC space. If hybrid also part of new strategy, wouldn't need as much space. They probably have a lot of options and the landscape is still changing (Cerner dumping 3M space) so reasonable to redo due diligence before committing to new construction.
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I think it's been said before, but I'd really like to see this as more mixed use or strictly residential as opposed to just office. Either way, this parcel holds such great potential being on a streetcar stop...just my two cents.
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Residential demand still appears healthy enough in RCP corridor and office not, so might be better for this location with maybe some kind of corner public attraction gateway into Crown Center.
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Not a loss IMO. This isn't a corner that reeks of desperation, except perhaps a desperation to complete the CC master plan rather than what the market and community can support.
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This stop will be the access to transportation from the south end of hospital hill and troost corridor. The other corners here are park and will never be developed. Really, really needs to be something that will offer some shops, services, shelter. Will also be a major access point for the LM for those who do not want to climb the hill and stairs. Years ago driving here my alternator went out. Before cell phones. Might as well have been in the countryside until a security person at the law offices saw my plight and gave assistance. Need an oasis here, the entire stretch north to Pershing will always be a vacuum.
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^Yeah, something publicly accessible/desirable at the corner tip if even just a coffee joint. And CC should try to inspire future Grand development to be more streetfront ped friendly into center of CC.
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Re: Office project at 27th & Main
Docs have been updated on the project recently and stage updated to 'Planning Schematics'...
https://www.construction.com/projects/d ... ct-unicorn
https://www.construction.com/projects/d ... ct-unicorn
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Re: Office project at 27th & Main
Fidelity leasing 75,000 sq ft at 2600 Grand and scrapping plans for new tower.
https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... 2024-08-01
They need to get a residential tower or hotel built at this location. I don't see a new office building happening for a long time and keeping it a patch of grass with the new streetcar stop right there would be a waste.
https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... 2024-08-01
They need to get a residential tower or hotel built at this location. I don't see a new office building happening for a long time and keeping it a patch of grass with the new streetcar stop right there would be a waste.
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Someone needs to light a fire under the Halls. The land/infrastructure they own along 27th and Gillham is an embarrassment and needs action. They have so much parking in their garages that they could open up for residential projects that there's really no reason for this land to sit there.
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halls will not approve any hotels and really don’t want resi either. Pretty much only willing to sell to major office. I suspect you could get them to sell for a resi tower but the rents aren’t thereGRID wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 4:35 pm Fidelity leasing 75,000 sq ft at 2600 Grand and scrapping plans for new tower.
https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... 2024-08-01
They need to get a residential tower or hotel built at this location. I don't see a new office building happening for a long time and keeping it a patch of grass with the new streetcar stop right there would be a waste.
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Then need to sell. Residential drives demand for their storefronts and offices. Crumbling unused surface lots and patches of grass do not. How long have they owned this land that has seen zero construction? 50 years?
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We may never see another high rise office building again in downtown KC. I'm guessing I won't see a new one in my lifetime. I'm 50yrs old and I'm not banking on anything in the next 50yrs (if I am so blessed to see 100). Maybe some mixed used office & residential. But pure office tower, idea seems dead. Hopefully some companies will grow and maybe decide to build a tower. That would be great. But nothing going now and for at least the foreseeable future. I'm good with new residential towers, more people just make it more likely for businesses to follow. We shall see.GRID wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 4:35 pm Fidelity leasing 75,000 sq ft at 2600 Grand and scrapping plans for new tower.
https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... 2024-08-01
They need to get a residential tower or hotel built at this location. I don't see a new office building happening for a long time and keeping it a patch of grass with the new streetcar stop right there would be a waste.
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I don't disagree with you just relaying the message I've gotten from them before.TheBigChuckbowski wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:03 amThen need to sell. Residential drives demand for their storefronts and offices. Crumbling unused surface lots and patches of grass do not. How long have they owned this land that has seen zero construction? 50 years?
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Originally Crown Center _did_ plan for multiple towers in the same mode of San Francisco Tower (there are sketches online). The younger Hall brothers, who run things now, might be persuaded. Of course Harry Weese is long dead, but other architects could do a facsimile.
Back in the 1980s there were surveys done among the potential buyer pool for another SFT, but the sentiment then was more favorable for the Plaza. Hence the Alameda Tower and other buildings nearby.
Hallmark is not generating nearly as much revenue as it once did. So while Crown Center is Hallmark's "flagship," I wonder how much tolerance for a speculative construction project they would permit. The city needs to get involved too -- maybe share the risks.
Back in the 1980s there were surveys done among the potential buyer pool for another SFT, but the sentiment then was more favorable for the Plaza. Hence the Alameda Tower and other buildings nearby.
Hallmark is not generating nearly as much revenue as it once did. So while Crown Center is Hallmark's "flagship," I wonder how much tolerance for a speculative construction project they would permit. The city needs to get involved too -- maybe share the risks.
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If Halls won't develop those lots, they need to sell them. I agree it all needs to be residential. it's in Crown Center's interest to have more housing there to help their retail.
We don't have William Rockhill Nelson writing opinion columns in a daily newspaper anymore to engage in boosterism and shaming local parties to do the right thing.
We don't have William Rockhill Nelson writing opinion columns in a daily newspaper anymore to engage in boosterism and shaming local parties to do the right thing.
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It's a shame Hallmark didn't follow up their residential component by expanding it to the south all the way to 27th street and then built the office south of 27th. Now a condo tower south of 27th would be detached from the existing residential at Crown Center without direct access to the pool, tennis courts and all the amenities Crown Center offers. I suspect the market for downtown condos was pretty limited at the time.herrfrank wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:09 am Originally Crown Center _did_ plan for multiple towers in the same mode of San Francisco Tower (there are sketches online). The younger Hall brothers, who run things now, might be persuaded. Of course Harry Weese is long dead, but other architects could do a facsimile.
Back in the 1980s there were surveys done among the potential buyer pool for another SFT, but the sentiment then was more favorable for the Plaza. Hence the Alameda Tower and other buildings nearby.
Hallmark is not generating nearly as much revenue as it once did. So while Crown Center is Hallmark's "flagship," I wonder how much tolerance for a speculative construction project they would permit. The city needs to get involved too -- maybe share the risks.