An Amtrak Engineer told me UP requires a minimum number of axles per train. Assuming that hasn’t changed, they will still have to carry those random old baggage and passenger cars along.
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Intresting, wonder why that is?
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That'll look trashy. You have all the new and shiny stuff and then the ugly.normalthings wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:32 pm
An Amtrak Engineer told me UP requires a minimum number of axles per train. Assuming that hasn’t changed, they will still have to carry those random old baggage and passenger cars along.
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He said the State of Missouri only pays for or allows so many revenue cars on the River Runner. Number of axles for MODOT ‘s revenue cars and the minimum UP allows has to be filled somehow so they pickup old junkChris Stritzel wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:57 pmThat'll look trashy. You have all the new and shiny stuff and then the ugly.normalthings wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:32 pm
An Amtrak Engineer told me UP requires a minimum number of axles per train. Assuming that hasn’t changed, they will still have to carry those random old baggage and passenger cars along.
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I assume they are prohibited from moving any kind of freight?normalthings wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:54 pmHe said the State of Missouri only pays for or allows so many revenue cars on the River Runner. Number of axles for MODOT ‘s revenue cars and the minimum UP allows has to be filled somehow so they pickup old junkChris Stritzel wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:57 pmThat'll look trashy. You have all the new and shiny stuff and then the ugly.normalthings wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:32 pm
An Amtrak Engineer told me UP requires a minimum number of axles per train. Assuming that hasn’t changed, they will still have to carry those random old baggage and passenger cars along.
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shinatoo wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:23 amI assume they are prohibited from moving any kind of freight?normalthings wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:54 pmHe said the State of Missouri only pays for or allows so many revenue cars on the River Runner. Number of axles for MODOT ‘s revenue cars and the minimum UP allows has to be filled somehow so they pickup old junkChris Stritzel wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:57 pm
That'll look trashy. You have all the new and shiny stuff and then the ugly.
Amtrak once had a vibrant freight business. They've pulled roadrailers, refrigerated cars, and mail/materials cars. IIRC, it fell apart due to freight railroad complaints (imho those are fair), time/complexity, negative schedule impacts, etc. Upon further review, it appears that the freight cars couldn't keep up with increasing speeds on the Amtrak network either.
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Thanks. Very interesting.normalthings wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:58 amshinatoo wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:23 amI assume they are prohibited from moving any kind of freight?normalthings wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:54 pm
He said the State of Missouri only pays for or allows so many revenue cars on the River Runner. Number of axles for MODOT ‘s revenue cars and the minimum UP allows has to be filled somehow so they pickup old junk
Amtrak once had a vibrant freight business. They've pulled roadrailers, refrigerated cars, and mail/materials cars. IIRC, it fell apart due to freight railroad complaints (imho those are fair), time/complexity, negative schedule impacts, etc. Upon further review, it appears that the freight cars couldn't keep up with increasing speeds on the Amtrak network either.
https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/ ... ?1,1676850
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Not super thrilled about these. There is a lot of exposed stuff on the underside of the car that will be susceptible to snow build up and freezing.
The seats also look uncomfortable...
(I have a picture of the interior....but trying to post it it gives me the message the board attachment quota has been reached)
The seats also look uncomfortable...
(I have a picture of the interior....but trying to post it it gives me the message the board attachment quota has been reached)
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Use imgurT_Wero wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:36 am Not super thrilled about these. There is a lot of exposed stuff on the underside of the car that will be susceptible to snow build up and freezing.
The seats also look uncomfortable...
(I have a picture of the interior....but trying to post it it gives me the message the board attachment quota has been reached)
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If the seats are the same as Brightline, they were very comfortable (although those trips aren't very long).
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Ridership On Amtrak Down 75%
https://www.emissourian.com/local_news/ ... eb91d.html
https://www.emissourian.com/local_news/ ... eb91d.html
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Amtrak Midwest has started testing the new "Venture" Rail Cars up in Michigan.
Photos from Railfan and Railroad Magazine on Twitter: https://twitter.com/railfanmag/status/1 ... 5132869633 and MDOT Rail on Twitter.
Video: https://youtu.be/_Fg2VXNiIWI?t=27
Photos from Railfan and Railroad Magazine on Twitter: https://twitter.com/railfanmag/status/1 ... 5132869633 and MDOT Rail on Twitter.
Video: https://youtu.be/_Fg2VXNiIWI?t=27
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Interior pics of the new cars:
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Add a mid-day train and you've got yourself a service.Chris Stritzel wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:28 pmI'm looking forward to these going into service. Much more modern looking.
Now if only we could get the speed increased, then I would be very happy.
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Need to also improve reliability of service but difficult when rails shared with freight industry.
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and shorter stops at stations
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This is on the new Amtrak' CEO's list. Legally Amtrak has priority, but there isn't a good enforcement mechanism in place. They've gone so far as to publish a public score card of "host railroads" (UP hosts most of the River Runner, BNSF hosts most of the Chief).
https://www.amtrak.com/content/dam/proj ... d-FAQs.pdf
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Amtrak has been peddling a bunch of new routes in Ohiosmh wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:38 amAdd a mid-day train and you've got yourself a service.Chris Stritzel wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:28 pmI'm looking forward to these going into service. Much more modern looking.
Now if only we could get the speed increased, then I would be very happy.
https://www.masstransitmag.com/rail/new ... cincinnati