tower wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:11 am
Vancouver has a lot of larger apartment buildings especially in the less commercial part of their downtown that have apartments or condos on the ground floor that open directly to the street (higher levels have their own entrance) Is there something in the US zoning code that prevents this? It usually requires a setback for privacy, but it is a pretty good pedestrian experience.
Great example. There is nothing that prohibits this in the U.S. (though K.C's archaic code may not allow it). Residential uses on the ground floor are a great way to activate the street. If people fear that no one would rent/buy those units, then they might be designated as "affordable" units.
Doesn't the Graphic Arts Building at 10th and Wyandotte have two apartments that have their own doors to the street? I remember the corner unit was an apartment after they did the residential conversion. Are they still apartments, or are they now the rental office?
tower wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:11 am
Vancouver has a lot of larger apartment buildings especially in the less commercial part of their downtown that have apartments or condos on the ground floor that open directly to the street (higher levels have their own entrance) Is there something in the US zoning code that prevents this? It usually requires a setback for privacy, but it is a pretty good pedestrian experience.
Great example. There is nothing that prohibits this in the U.S. (though K.C's archaic code may not allow it). Residential uses on the ground floor are a great way to activate the street. If people fear that no one would rent/buy those units, then they might be designated as "affordable" units.
Doesn't the Graphic Arts Building at 10th and Wyandotte have two apartments that have their own doors to the street? I remember the corner unit was an apartment after they did the residential conversion. Are they still apartments, or are they now the rental office?
Good to know that it seems to be viable in the KC market.
It would be nice if buildings were built with that kind of flexibility today, but today's retail spaces are more specially designed for retail. Also, even if a develper couldn't find a tenant for the retail space, they wouldn't convert it to ground level residential because a building is worth more with a retail storefront, even if there is no rent being collected. That is another potential problem- too much ground level retail space.
Put some amenities on the ground level, like the gym, or lounge. While it isn't going to pull in people off the street it definitely is more engaging than just a wall
tower wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:06 am
It would be nice if buildings were built with that kind of flexibility today, but today's retail spaces are more specially designed for retail. Also, even if a develper couldn't find a tenant for the retail space, they wouldn't convert it to ground level residential because a building is worth more with a retail storefront, even if there is no rent being collected. That is another potential problem- too much ground level retail space.
Every block having one retail space per side of each block is potentially thousands of retail spaces downtown. The market wouldn't build that much long-term so the idea of space that could serve as either is logical.
Retail doesn't need much depth and most developers put in parking so put flex space hiding the garage that has a front and back door.
Plumbing becomes the hard thing to change but could easily design this floor over an underground garage or a crawl space to give access for this work.
4 JH 5. Case No. CD-CPC-2018-00153 – 1800 Walnut – A request to approve a 132-unit residential building with 2135 square feet of ground-level retail space in district DX-15 on about 0.24 acres generally located at southwest corner of 18th Street and Walnut Street.
Applicant: Kristine Sutherlin, Burns & McDonnell
DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:12 am
CPC docket for 10/16:
4 JH 5. Case No. CD-CPC-2018-00153 – 1800 Walnut – A request to approve a 132-unit residential building with 2135 square feet of ground-level retail space in district DX-15 on about 0.24 acres generally located at southwest corner of 18th Street and Walnut Street.
Applicant: Kristine Sutherlin, Burns & McDonnell
I can't ever find the CPC docket on data.kcmo anymore. Where did you find it?
DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:53 pm
Some noisy Crossroads people -- not the association! -- are planning to testify in opposition at CPC tomorrow. Please show up if you can!
DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:53 pm
Some noisy Crossroads people -- not the association! -- are planning to testify in opposition at CPC tomorrow. Please show up if you can!
Approved. Construction starts in November.
Were any negotiations or changes had regarding the Walnut facade?
DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:53 pm
Some noisy Crossroads people -- not the association! -- are planning to testify in opposition at CPC tomorrow. Please show up if you can!
Approved. Construction starts in November.
Were any negotiations or changes had regarding the Walnut facade?
I'm told two parking spaces were sacrificed to address the issue. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This is a really nice project. So glad to see a modern highrise go up south of 670. I find it a bit odd that this project basically came out of nowhere and will start construction in November while Three light (which gets a free parking garage plus other incentives) keeps getting pushed back.
I think there's probably something to be said about the complexity of incentives on the 1800 Walnut vs. the Cordish developments. Also, that there doesn't appear to be any overarching master development agreement (other than for the site itself) or other city/political entanglements that need to be dealt with.
Is there a date for the city council to act, or any other movement on this project yet? Love to have 10--15 more of these in the Crossroads/Eastside neighborhoods, half of which were office/office-retail like Corrigan Station.
Developer requested removal of some on-street parking to install a permanent parklet on Walnut. Might be minimized by the elimination of multiple curb cuts for the existing parking lot.