18th and Vine

Discuss items in the urban core outside of Downtown as described above. Everything in the core including the east side (18th & Vine area), Northeast, Plaza, Westport, Brookside, Valentine, Waldo, 39th street, & the entire midtown area.
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chaglang wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:44 pmThat's an impossibly broad statement.

People like outdoor space. That's why it keeps showing up.
That's why we build proper parks. Don't bust up commercial streets with them
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If we want people to use outdoor spaces, starting from "what do people want?" seems like a good approach.
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UrbanAmerica lowers drawbridge on net-zero homes, hotel near KC castle renovation

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UrbanAmerica, the Miami-based builder behind the upcoming SouthPointe at 63rd Street project, looks to meet with the city's development assistance team over a proposed rehabilitation of the Kansas City Workhouse Castle at 2001 Vine St., plus new hotel and energy-efficient housing construction on the block, northwest of Woodland Avenue and 21st Street.
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Those components are considered the first phase of Enterprise Village Ecosystem (EVE), a master planned development that also could introduce co-working spaces, a "living laboratory" for academic institutions and entertainment and commercial uses, across 21.5 mostly vacant acres in the Wendell Phillips neighborhood, according to UrbanAmerica's website.
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UrbanAmerica's site concepts depict 6,000 square feet of event space within the castle and another 6,000 square feet for events outside. There would be room for a winery or other commercial use.

Attached to the castle just south, the developer proposes a 60-room boutique hotel. In tandem with the renovated castle spaces, Farmer said the facilities could host weddings, corporate events and community functions. The project includes 75 surface parking spots in front of the castle, fronting Kansas City Terminal railroad tracks.
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To the east, along Woodland Avenue between the tracks and 22nd Street, UrbanAmerica looks to build about 60 for-sale houses, planned as three-bed, three-bath residences between 1,800 and 2,000 square feet, in a community christened The Views.
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Contingent on upcoming plan approvals, work — including site clearing and castle structure stabilization — could begin this summer.

KEM Studio is architect for the development.
https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity ... 2022-01-05

https://kemstudio.com/projects/
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Cool project. Near the Vine St Brewery opening in Spring too
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Looks Great, very exciting could be a huge catalyst for 18th and Vine.
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18th and Vine is heating up! Really nice to see.
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I don't know if this project has been mentioned anywhere, but there is another proposal titled Crescendo just a couple blocks south of the EVE site, on the 2400 block of Highland for 39 units across 10 buildings on a currently vacant/wooded lot.
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Kevin Collison is reporting on another project south of 18th and Vine in Wendell-Phillips that will add 39 additional apartments in 10 townhouse-style buildings. The project is on the east side of Highland Avenue between 24th and 25th streets.

Crescendo Project to Add Affordable Housing Near Downtown
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Brinshore Development is teaming with the Urban Neighborhood Initiative on what’s called the UNI Crescendo project. It calls for 10 townhome-style apartment buildings on the east side of Highland Avenue between 24th and 25th streets.
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The development would include one-, two- and three-bedroom apartments and rent for households earning between 30 percent and 80 percent of the area media income (AMI). A one-bedroom at the 30 percent AMI level could rent for as low as $355 per month.
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The project calls for the construction of 10, three-story buildings on what’s now a wooded lot facing Highland Avenue. One building would include a community center and offices. The property had been controlled by the Land Bank of Kansas City.
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Construction is expected to begin by late spring with completion by the summer of 2023.
https://cityscenekc.com/crescendo-proje ... -downtown/

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https://www.google.com/maps/@39.081119, ... 384!8i8192
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US Civil Rights Trail adds stop at Negro Leagues Baseball Museum
The newest stop on the U.S. Civil Rights Trail is right here in Kansas City after the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum was added to the trail Tuesday.

It is the third site in Missouri to be added to the map of places critical to the advancement of civil rights in U.S. history.
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https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/us ... all-museum
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18th & Vine Concept Called ‘Beale Street,’ Sparks Council Clash
A $23 million mixed-use redevelopment proposal backed by Mayor Quinton Lucas that would add apartments and retail space to the 18th and Vine District is being opposed by Council members who fear it would turn the area into another “Beale Street.”
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Robinson, along with Third District Councilman-at-Large Brandon Ellington, want the redevelopment proposal rejected. The project would be located in their district.

Lucas, along with Fifth District Councilman-at-Large Lee Barnes, Jr., are supporting the proposal submitted by McCormack Baron Salazar and Taliaferro & Browne, longtime developers in the area, for the west side of Vine between 18th and 19th streets.
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Their proposal calls for building 33,000 square-feet of first floor retail behind the old facades below two levels of residential space totaling 54 apartments. The project also includes 28 parking space.
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Robinson and Ellington have submitted an ordinance to the Council demanding the city reject the current proposal and issue a new RFP.

Neither Council member could be reached directly for comment, but Robinson posted a series of Tweets last week accusing the developers of trying to “gentrify” the area.
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Graham said if the full City Council approves his group’s proposal for 18th and Vine, it would likely be at least nine- to 10 months before any construction activity would begin.
https://www.flatlandkc.org/news-issues/ ... cil-clash/
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FangKC wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:19 pm 18th & Vine Concept Called ‘Beale Street,’ Sparks Council Clash
A $23 million mixed-use redevelopment proposal backed by Mayor Quinton Lucas that would add apartments and retail space to the 18th and Vine District is being opposed by Council members who fear it would turn the area into another “Beale Street.”
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Robinson, along with Third District Councilman-at-Large Brandon Ellington, want the redevelopment proposal rejected. The project would be located in their district.

Lucas, along with Fifth District Councilman-at-Large Lee Barnes, Jr., are supporting the proposal submitted by McCormack Baron Salazar and Taliaferro & Browne, longtime developers in the area, for the west side of Vine between 18th and 19th streets.
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Their proposal calls for building 33,000 square-feet of first floor retail behind the old facades below two levels of residential space totaling 54 apartments. The project also includes 28 parking space.
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Robinson and Ellington have submitted an ordinance to the Council demanding the city reject the current proposal and issue a new RFP.

Neither Council member could be reached directly for comment, but Robinson posted a series of Tweets last week accusing the developers of trying to “gentrify” the area.
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Graham said if the full City Council approves his group’s proposal for 18th and Vine, it would likely be at least nine- to 10 months before any construction activity would begin.
https://www.flatlandkc.org/news-issues/ ... cil-clash/
They complain about no investment on the East side…then complain when there is possible investment on the east side. There’s no winning
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They also completely ignore their own constituent business owners who have been complaining that nothing has been done with those city-owned parcels for years as they have deteriorated.
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There was an interesting exchange between Lucas and Councilwoman Melissa Robinson last week
Melissa Robinson wrote:I have been working for six months to ensure 18th and Vine is protected from displacement.
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sidesteps BOTH Third District Council Members and teams with a Fifth District Councilmember to sale 18th and Vine for $1
Quinton Lucas wrote:Councilwoman, what is this? We discussed this at lunch just last week. There was an initial RFP and a selection committee from 18th & Vine awarded the bid to a successful Black-led respondent. The way council rejects a bid, if one does not like it, then is to vote it down.
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Are they going to be opposed to a stadium too?
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shinatoo wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:49 pm Are they going to be opposed to a stadium too?
Ok, I’m glad this point is finally being brought up. I’ve been wondering for awhile why nobody has mentioned this…

With all of “your destroying our neighborhood fabric” going around these days, how the hell could you convince Vine to bring in a new stadium? That would be the ultimate neighborhood changer. You’d get so much fear of gentrification I assume it would blow their heads off. Im just really surprised this point hasn’t been made yet especially with what’s been happening lately.
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AlkaliAxel wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:45 pm
shinatoo wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:49 pm Are they going to be opposed to a stadium too?
Ok, I’m glad this point is finally being brought up. I’ve been wondering for awhile why nobody has mentioned this…

With all of “your destroying our neighborhood fabric” going around these days, how the hell could you convince Vine to bring in a new stadium? That would be the ultimate neighborhood changer. You’d get so much fear of gentrification I assume it would blow their heads off. Im just really surprised this point hasn’t been made yet especially with what’s been happening lately.
IIRC. Ellington hasn't filed for re-election and others are running against Robinson. New council next summer
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Everything not social housing is gentrification.
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I don't see who is being displaced by this plan. There is no one living on those parcels. There are no businesses that will have to move to accommodate the new structures. It provides more residents to frequent nearby businesses. It gets rid of blight. Why oppose this plan when there are two other apartment buildings being planned on the blocks to the south?
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FangKC wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:01 pm I don't see who is being displaced by this plan. There is no one living on those parcels. There are no businesses that will have to move to accommodate the new structures. It provides more residents to frequent nearby businesses. It gets rid of blight. Why oppose this plan when there are two other apartment buildings being planned on the blocks to the south?
Her argument appears to be that someday the affordable apartments might not be affordable any more.
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New construction of affordable housing in mixed-income projects does tend to phase out at a certain point depending on the financing details at the time. HUD has tended to go this route using HUD-backed financing and federal and state tax credits for private developments instead of building all low-income public housing projects operated by a housing authority. That is a federal policy and it's hard to get around.

Redevelopment of Quality Hill had this type of situation where a certain percentage of the apartments were affordable and that phased out after 15 or 20 years I think.

I don't see what her end game is in getting the apartments made affordable permanently unless she has some plan to change federal policy. That City housing trust is unlikely to be able to build enough units to make a dent.
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