Not sure where the 11 mile distance you cite is coming from.KCMax wrote: Legends to downtown = 16 miles
TSC to downtown = 11 miles
I don't see a huge appreciable difference.
But most people don't think about that being Bonner Springs or Edwardsville. To them it's still KCK, because technically it is. So when they go to the Legends and talk about how great it is, it reflects well (in their minds) on KCK.GRID wrote: Fixed your post. KCK's image has not changed, if anything, it's gotten worse.
An area west of KCK near Bonner Springs and Edwardsville has a new image. But other than the zip code being a KCK zip, I don't see how this has helped KCK as a whole much at all...
Couldn't disagree more - less than ten years ago "KCK" and "Wyandotte" were scary, four letter words for most metro residents with nothing remotely redeeming in most people's mind. Residents of KCK/Wyandotte were probably pretty universally used to hearing "why would you want to live there?" everytime they told someone where they were from. The inner-city of KCK may still be a long ways from being rehabilitated but I have no doubt that the overall image has massively improved. Just the fact that people would bother to split hairs over inner city KCK v. the rest of KCK speaks volumes - no one would have thought it made much of a damn difference before. Just people being able to say that they live or operate a business in KCK without everyone cringing was a massive first step on the road to full revitalization - if you had asked me several years ago, I would have said it was impossible.GRID wrote: Fixed your post. KCK's image has not changed, if anything, it's gotten worse.
It's the same.LenexatoKCMO wrote: Couldn't disagree more - less than ten years ago "KCK" and "Wyandotte" were scary, four letter words for most metro residents with nothing remotely redeeming in most people's mind. Residents of KCK/Wyandotte were probably pretty universally used to hearing "why would you want to live there?" everytime they told someone where they were from. The inner-city of KCK may still be a long ways from being rehabilitated but I have no doubt that the overall image has massively improved. Just the fact that people would bother to split hairs over inner city KCK v. the rest of KCK speaks volumes - no one would have thought it made much of a damn difference before. Just people being able to say that they live or operate a business in KCK without everyone cringing was a massive first step on the road to full revitalization - if you had asked me several years ago, I would have said it was impossible.
Their image may be worse to you but it's obvious that image has been enhanced to the population at large. I've long resigned myself to the fact that if I don't like something, the rest of the populace will love it (and vice versa).chrizow wrote: i'd say that west KCK/Bonner Springs/Edwardsville's image (or, rather, reality) has gotten worse as well. i'd rather see farmland, fields, and maybe low-impact development than unsustainable exuburban garbage.
My Point is people in some of the biggest MO side burbs will have to travel all the way across the city if they feel like going to a casino at VW. Just pointing that fact out, its something we should all be aware of. Nothing more, nothing less.KCMax wrote: Legends to downtown = 16 miles
TSC to downtown = 11 miles
I don't see a huge appreciable difference.
Rokhok, I am merely pointing out that its an additional amount of travel time (in this case 7 more minutes). While it may not seem like much, we must remember that for every additional minute you add to the travel time, X amount of customers are lost.rokhok wrote: Time from Lee's Summit to Harrah's: 31 minutes
Time from Lee's Summit to Kansas Speedway = 38 minutes
You seem to equate distance traveled to driving time. For someone in South KC the travel time to VW isn't that much greater than to Harrah's or Ameristar. Throw in the food choices at the VW area compared to the other casino's and you have a winner. And it just might be a shorter travel time than taking the bus to downtown. Plus you also seem to assume one casino is the same as another. It's odd, people do prefer one over others for whatever rational or irrational reason they might have (I hit a big jackpot there, I like the selection of games there, I like the dealers there, etc.).im2kull wrote: every additional mile east you go, is additional time it takes for someone to travel to VW. Regardless of the route taken, there becomes a point where someone 15 or 20 miles away will only visit maybe once every 4 years, versus once every month. Its a purely distance related thing. That's the sole reason I wonder just how big a Boon this will be for the VW area.
I base my Driving time on what Google says, not on distance traveled. Generally more distance traveled is more driving time, though there are exceptions.aknowledgeableperson wrote: You seem to equate distance traveled to driving time.
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I hope for none of the above only if it means if we get 3 thru 5 get to watch the coverage on TV even on KMCI in HD but not on Comcast because it doesn't carry it yet and KSHB Weather Plus.
Just for fun I would say Ice to the North,the Middle Severe Weather and Blizzard like conditions to the South.
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Sure, and Johnson Countians will have to drive half an hour to get to the casinos up north. Anything that is not in the central urban core is going to be a haul for some suburban residents.im2kull wrote: My Point is people in some of the biggest MO side burbs will have to travel all the way across the city if they feel like going to a casino at VW. Just pointing that fact out, its something we should all be aware of. Nothing more, nothing less.
TSC to downtown, to Legends:
22.8 mi
It looks like that movie theater that used to be at 119th and Metcalf.ComandanteCero wrote: good lord.... i'm guessing part of this is the rendering style, but...how blandly can you design a casino?
It looks like an oversized community center in the suburbs.
I thought it looked like your typical big, fancy, suburban, multiplex movie theater - I guess that fits well with the theme but I would agree that it doesn't just jump off the page at you like a casino.ComandanteCero wrote: good lord.... i'm guessing part of this is the rendering style, but...how blandly can you design a casino?
It looks like an oversized community center in the suburbs.
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