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Re: P+L Tenant Rumors

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:03 pm
by trailerkid
KCPowercat wrote: I say quit putting meaning into things that I post that aren't there. People who find safe harbor in known restaurants live everywhere. Clear enough? 

BTW the only true bad food in p&l is famous Dave. Everything else is pretty solid.
good grief. FD's is not "bad food"...it's just mediocre like most everything else down there. a big problem with P+L is there aren't enough destination restaurants-- this is an area where the Plaza has a definite leg up. I will say P+L has a greater variety than the Plaza.

i don't see serendipity coming to P+L. maybe the owner is doing another concept? serendipity doesn't really even make sense. i've seen it before on TV and it appeared to be something of a NYC institution.

Re: P+L Tenant Rumors

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:09 pm
by KCPowercat
My opinion says fd sucks therefore to me its bad. Obviously you disagree.

Peachtree, bristol, 801, mixx, genghis, chefburger are all solid. Frans, chipotle, teds,  good for what they are.

Re: P+L Tenant Rumors

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:24 pm
by bobbyhawks
KCPowercat wrote: My opinion says fd sucks therefore to me its bad. Obviously you disagree.

Peachtree, bristol, 801, mixx, genghis, chefburger are all solid. Frans, chipotle, teds,  good for what they are.
I've heard nothing but bad things about 801.

Re: P+L Tenant Rumors

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:27 pm
by kcmetro
Famous Daves is the only place I won't go.  Been there twice and both times it's been the worst bbq I've had in my life.  I hate the sauce.  If you have a bbq restaurant in KC, you better not fuck up the sauce.  Well, Dave sure fucked it up alright.

Re: P+L Tenant Rumors

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:30 pm
by WSPanic
kcmetro wrote: Famous Daves is the only place I won't go.  Been there twice and both times it's been the worst bbq I've had in my life.  I hate the sauce.  If you have a bbq restaurant in KC, you better not fuck up the sauce.  Well, Dave sure fucked it up alright.
They had $2 draws (good-sized) and no lines during the Big XII Tourney. Other than that, they serve no purpose.

Re: P+L Tenant Rumors

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:51 pm
by KC-wildcat
You know what would be awesome??? 

A co-op between Gates, Arthur Bryant's, and Oklahoma Joe's.  Throw all three into one of the big, vacant spots near SC. 

It would be the culinary equivalent of Garment District. 

Terrible idea? 

Re: P+L Tenant Rumors

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:59 pm
by trailerkid
KC-wildcat wrote: You know what would be awesome??? 

A co-op between Gates, Arthur Bryant's, and Oklahoma Joe's.  Throw all three into one of the big, vacant spots near SC. 

It would be the culinary equivalent of Garment District. 

Terrible idea? 
a BBQ food court is a good idea, but i doubt any of the big boys would want to be a part of it.

Re: P+L Tenant Rumors

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:59 pm
by heatherkay
This sounds like something that would be at the BBQ hall of fame that I can't believe isn't already somewhere in KC.

Re: P+L Tenant Rumors

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:58 pm
by WSPanic
KC-wildcat wrote: You know what would be awesome??? 

A co-op between Gates, Arthur Bryant's, and Oklahoma Joe's.  Throw all three into one of the big, vacant spots near SC. 

It would be the culinary equivalent of Garment District. 

Terrible idea? 
Not terrible, no. But, an important part of a lot of people's enjoyment of these places are the locations. The original Bryant's and Okie Joe's are truly part of their character.

Re: P+L Tenant Rumors

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:03 pm
by LenexatoKCMO
WSPanic wrote: Not terrible, no. But, an important part of a lot of people's enjoyment of these places are the locations. The original Bryant's and Okie Joe's are truly part of their character.
Yeah, it would be very hard to pull off and not have it come off as inauthentic and touristy - ultimately a threat to the city's bbq rep and the rep of the restaurants. 

Re: P+L Tenant Rumors

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:07 pm
by kcmetro
WSPanic wrote: Not terrible, no. But, an important part of a lot of people's enjoyment of these places are the locations. The original Bryant's and Okie Joe's are truly part of their character.
I prefer the Bryants at the Legends over the original.  Not as cramped and it's much cleaner, from what I've experienced at both locations.

Re: P+L Tenant Rumors

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:10 pm
by dangerboy
LenexatoKCMO wrote: Yeah, it would be very hard to pull off and not have it come off as inauthentic and touristy - ultimately a threat to the city's bbq rep and the rep of the restaurants. 
This conjures up scary visions of that place in Chicago's River North that has branches of local Italian restaurants arranged around a faux Italian alley and comes across as a really tacky food court.

Re: P+L Tenant Rumors

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:29 pm
by lock+load
kcmetro wrote: I prefer the Bryants at the Legends over the original.  Not as cramped and it's much cleaner, from what I've experienced at both locations.
Wow. I've never had a good Bryant's experience except at the original.

Re: P+L Tenant Rumors

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:32 pm
by chrizow
lock+load wrote: Wow. I've never had a good Bryant's experience except at the original.
i ate a day-old leftover brisket sandwich from the casino location that was still better than 90% of bbq i've eaten.

Re: P+L Tenant Rumors

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:41 pm
by kcmetro
lock+load wrote: Wow. I've never had a good Bryant's experience except at the original.
Seriously?  How hard is it to fuck up Bryant's when you already have the most important part of the bbq...the sauce.  I've been to the Legends one numerous times and have yet to be disappointed.  Never been to the one at the casino.

Re: P+L Tenant Rumors

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:45 pm
by trailerkid
kcmetro wrote: the most important part of the bbq...the sauce. 
because ALL BBQ enthusiasts agree on this fact.

Re: P+L Tenant Rumors

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:47 pm
by loftguy
kcmetro wrote: Seriously?  How hard is it to fuck up Bryant's when you already have the most important part of the bbq...the sauce.  I've been to the Legends one numerous times and have yet to be disappointed.  Never been to the one at the casino.
Had a brisket sandwich at the airport location in a moment of desperation.  It was the worst bbq experience of my life.  Sauce can not redeem slop.  Did not know it could be that bad.  

Believe that location is now gone.  I still shudder when it's ghost enters my consciousness.

Re: P+L Tenant Rumors

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:49 pm
by LenexatoKCMO
If it was all the sauce why bother going to the restaurant?  You can buy the sauce bottled at the store and poor it on some slice bologne if its all the sauce.  

Oh wait, there is that ten+ hours of loving labor that goes into making the meat perfect and delicious regardless of what you put on it.  

Re: P+L Tenant Rumors

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:51 pm
by KCPowercat
I won't step into another Bryants except the original. Got burned by that ameristar one too many times. Cleaner?  Wtf?

Re: P+L Tenant Rumors

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:01 pm
by NDTeve
LenexatoKCMO wrote: If it was all the sauce why bother going to the restaurant?  You can buy the sauce bottled at the store and poor it on some slice bologne if its all the sauce.  

Oh wait, there is that ten+ hours of loving labor that goes into making the meat perfect and delicious regardless of what you put on it.  
Sauce don't make the Ribs, or the brisket, or anything. Not saying that sauce is a condiment...