MIZZOU RAH! Is it football season yet?

[StL_Dan]

Nobody knows MU hoops exists. So stop pretending they are KU's level.

I don't want MU to be at any other team's level. I want them to be one level HIGHER than any other team in the nation.

SCREW KU

[StL_Dan]

MU vs KANSAS STATE (MU 56- Kay State 29- 5 ties)
(take away the current 11 game Kay State winning streak MU 56 KaySt 18 )
1909 – Missouri, 3-0 at Columbia
1914 – Missouri, 13-3 at Columbia
1915 – TIE, 0-0 at Columbia
1916 – Kansas State, 7-6 at Columbia
1917 – Kansas State, 7-6 at Columbia
1919 – TIE, 6-6 at Columbia
1920 – Missouri, 10-7 at Manhattan
1921 – Kansas State, 7-5 at Manhattan
1922 – Kansas State, 13-10 at Columbia
1923 – Missouri, 4-2 at Manhattan
1924 – Missouri, 14-7 at Columbia
1925 – Missouri, 3-0 at Manhattan
1927 – Missouri, 19-6 at Manhattan
1928 – Missouri, 19-6 at Manhattan
1929 – Kansas State, 7-6 at Columbia
1930 – Kansas State, 20-13 at Manhattan
1931 – Kansas State, 20-7 at Columbia
1932 – Kansas State, 25-0 at Manhattan
1933 – Kansas State, 33-0 at Columbia
1934 – Kansas State, 33-0 at Manhattan
1935 – TIE, 7-7 at Columbia
1936 – TIE, 7-7 at Manhattan
1937 – Missouri, 14-7 at Columbia
1938 – Kansas State, 21-13 at Manhattan
1939 – Missouri, 9-7 at Columbia
1940 – Missouri, 24-13 at Manhattan
1941 – Missouri, 35-0 at Columbia
1942 – Missouri, 46-2 at Manhattan
1943 – Missouri, 47-14 at Columbia
1944 – Missouri, 33-0 at Manhattan
1945 – Missouri, 41-7 at Columbia
1946 – Missouri, 26-0 at Manhattan
1947 – Missouri, 47-7 at Columbia
1948 – Missouri, 49-7 at Manhattan
1949 – Missouri, 34-27 at Columbia
1950 – Missouri, 28-7 at Manhattan
1951 – *Kansas State, 14-12 at Columbia
*game later forfeited to Missouri
1952 – Missouri, 26-0 at Manhattan
1953 – Missouri, 16-6 at Columbia
1954 – Missouri, 35-7 at Manhattan
1955 – Kansas State, 21-0 at Columbia
1956 – Missouri, 20-6 at Manhattan
1957 – Kansas State, 23-21 at Columbia
1958 – Missouri, 32-8 at Manhattan
1959 – Missouri, 26-0 at Columbia
1960 – Missouri, 45-0 at Manhattan
1961 – Missouri, 27-9 at Columbia
1962 – Missouri, 32-0 at Manhattan
1963 – Missouri, 21-11 at Columbia
1964 – Missouri, 7-0 at Manhattan
1965 – Missouri, 28-14 at Columbia
1966 – Missouri, 27-0 at Manhattan
1967 – Missouri, 28-6 at Columbia
1968 – Missouri, 56-20 at Manhattan
1969 – Missouri, 41-38 at Columbia
1970 – Kansas State, 17-13 at Manhattan
1971 – Kansas State, 28-12 at Columbia
1972 – Missouri, 31-14 at Manhattan
1973 – Missouri, 31-7 at Columbia
1974 – Missouri, 52-15 at Manhattan
1975 – Missouri, 35-3 at Columbia
1976 – Missouri, 28-21 at Manhattan
1977 – Missouri, 28-13 at Columbia
1978 – Missouri, 56-14 at Manhattan
1979 – Kansas State, 19-3 at Columbia
1980 – Missouri, 13-3 at Manhattan
1981 – Missouri, 58-13 at Columbia
1982 – TIE, 7-7 at Manhattan
1983 – Missouri, 38-0 at Columbia
1984 – Missouri, 61-21 at Manhattan
1985 – Kansas State, 20-17 at Columbia
1986 – Missouri, 17-6 at Manhattan
1987 – Missouri, 34-10 at Columbia
1988 – Missouri, 52-21 at Manhattan
1989 – Missouri, 21-9 at Manhattan
1990 – Missouri, 31-10 at Columbia
1991 – Kansas State, 32-0 at Manhattan
1992 – Missouri, 27-14 at Columbia
1993 – Kansas State, 31-21 at Manhattan
1994 – Kansas State, 21-18 at Columbia
1995 – Kansas State, 30-0 at Manhattan
1996 – Kansas State, 35-10 at Columbia
1997 – Kansas State, 41-11 at Manhattan
1998 – Kansas State, 31-25 at Columbia
1999 – Kansas State, 66-0 at Manhattan
2000 – Kansas State, 28-24 at Columbia
2001 – Kansas State, 24-3 at Manhattan
2002 - Kay State at Columbia
2003 - Kay State at Manhattan
2004 - Missouri ???

[KCPowercat]

DAn...live in the past, I'll live in the present. Your team beat up on the worst team in D1A history until 1993....that's something to be proud of. As soon as we got average, your boys couldn't hack it.

[phxcat]

Yeah? Well take away that 12 game Missouri winning streak and its only 44-29 MU.

[Maitre D]

[I don't want MU to be at any other team's level. I want them to be one level HIGHER than any other team in the nation.

SCREW KU

Don't hold your breath.....I want to look like Brad Pitt and throw like ROger Clemens, but reality is another story.....

[chrizow]

it's called being a FAN, son.

[StL_Dan]

i've been holding my breath for the tigers for nearly 34 years.....i think i'll go on holding

[MidtownCat]

Fun with numbers.

I wonder if the tigs will hold Sproles to under 260 this year?

Good luck.

http://www.darrensproles43.com/intro.html

You're gonna need it.

[StL_Dan]

Fun with numbers.

I wonder if the tigs will hold Sproles to under 260 this year?

Good luck.

http://www.darrensproles43.com/intro.html

You're gonna need it.

I don't care if Darren runs the equivalent of 4 football field lengths against the MU defense as long as the game ends with MU scoring 1 more point than Kay State.

[MidtownCat]

Sounds great.

Just in case you haven't been keeping track, Kay State has beaten the Tigs by an average of over three touchdowns a game and rolled out three shutouts over the course of the last 11 year win streak.

The Big XII Champs might have a thing or two to say about that 1 point win.

[KCPowercat]

MC...did you go to KSU? I think we might have a common friend.

[hartliss]

I don't really know how much I can respect K-State. I mean of course they have owned the tigers the past 11 yrs and yeah they have a couple of Big 12 titles. However, they have played one the softest non-conference schedules over the years. Also, when it comes to Bowl Games, they either get shafted by the selection committee and/or they get beat pretty soundley. I would think a team that smoked OU would be able to beat OSU.

2004 non conference schedule
Sat, Sep 04 Western Kentucky Manhattan, Kan. 6:10 p.m.
Sat, Sep 11 Fresno State Manhattan, Kan. 6:10 p.m.
Sat, Sep 18 Louisiana-Lafayette Manhattan, Kan. 1:10 p.m

All of these non conference games are in the 'little apple', why can't you play one of these teams on the road? Or does it really matter (Marshall, 2003)

[KCPowercat]

hartliss...we've one one big 12 title. 2 big 12 north, if that means anything.

This softest schedule argument really holds no water. Look at last year's BCS. 10th ranked schedule in football. Only one team above KSU in the BCS last year had a tougher schedule, Ohio St.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/abcsports/BCSRankings

The Big 12 is hard enough, there is absolutely zero reason to play a killer non-con schedule. I mean, Pinkel even has realized this, backing out of the Iowa game.

Respect what the program as done, turned itself from the worst program in 1A history to a consistant top 15 program. To ignore that is just hateful.

[phxcat]

And that is such an old, argument used by people who are jealous of K-State's success. We played USC, Cal, and Iowa in recent years on our non-con- and beat tham all. It's a two way street- we can't just decide to play Michigan and put them on the schedule- they have to want to play us too, and they don't!

[MidtownCat]

Lol, how bout this for a murderer's row?

Missouri rolls out these three tomato cans AND they backed out of their contract with Iowa before the season.

09/04/2004 Arkansas State Columbia, Mo. 6:00 PM
09/09/2004 Troy State Troy, Ala. 6:00 PM
09/18/2004 Ball State Columbia, Mo. 1:00 PM

Who's got the soft non-con?????

Looks to me like Gary Pinkel has taken note of the road map to success a few hours down I-70.

That's of course if you consider three Division Titles, a Big XII Title, six 11-win seasons, and 11 consecutive bowl games.....success.

[hartliss]

Well I guess I fired up the 'Cat Backers' with my last comment. I guess you guys are right what can you not like about K-State. They recruit all of the best JUCO players (aka people who were too stupid to get into any NCAA school initially), sprinkle a few Kansas natives and a few out of state natives. Presto, you have K-State and all of the Michael Bishop's and Ell Roberson's you can handle. That is why K-State will never be considered an elite team in the Nation, they are like the Cincinnatti of NCAA basketball. Compile great regular season records then go on to lose to Purdue in the freaking Lumberjack Bowl (6-5 under Bill Snyder in bowl games, should have a better record though if you look at the opponents).

K-State - Michigan, give me a break..... The Wolverines are too busy playing a little bit more competitive schedule than K-State: Miami (OH), Notre Dame, and San Diego State

By the way the Iowa series is set to begin next year, 2005. But hey I feel for you guys, at least the football team is good because what else is there to do in the 'little apple/aggieville' besides cheer on the Purple People Eaters.

You and the rest of the Wildcat Nation better hope Bill Snyder lives to be 150 yrs old.

[KCPowercat]

You need a big old glass of this harliss.

[hartliss]

Yea I do. Sports gets me fired up though, especially when it is your team you are defending. Nothing personal to all of the Wildcat fans, just my two cents.

[KCPowercat]

KSU Bowl History under HCBS

93 - Copper - KSU 52 Wyoming 17
94 - Aloha - KSU 7 BC 12
95 - Holiday - KSU 54 CSU 21
96 - Cotton - KSU 14 BYU 15
97 - Fiesta (Alliance) - KSU 35 Syracuse 18
98 - Alamo - KSU 34 Purdue 37
99 - Holiday - KSU 24 Washington 20
00 - Cotton - KSU 35 Tenn. 21
01 - Insight - KSU 3 Syracuse 26
02 - Holiday - KSU 34 ASU 27
03 - Fiesta (BCS) - KSU 28 Ohio St 35

Out of those I'd count 3 poor bowl games (copper, insight, aloha).

People that go to JuCo are not necessarily stupid but I see where you are going with that Ricky Clemons.

Nothing to do in Aggieville? That's arguable unless you don't like to drink and party, then yeah I could see that.

[hartliss]

Lets stick to football and not basketball. I think we are allowed one mistake from a JUCO. Hey I have been to Aggieville last year when the Tigers played K-State, it was a good time but the town itself, is not very exciting. You wouldn't call the loss to Purdue a bad loss?