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Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:51 pm
by bricknose
Damn, does this put the cap in jeopardy, regardless of timelines? I’m guessing the downtown ballpark being approved by the vote would help solidify funding, but if that falls through as well, then what?
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:24 pm
by TheLastGentleman
It’s incredible how this thing seems to be close to breaking ground every 6 months or so and then goes completely silent again
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:33 pm
by beautyfromashes
Name it Hawley Park and it gets done tomorrow.
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:07 pm
by GRID
Said all along this has no chance of opening prior to the world cup. They might start construction before the WC if they are lucky.
How does MO have the money to widen I-70 across the entire state when most of it doesn't need it? I-70 only needs to be six lanes to Odessa for example. Widening it from Odessa to Colombia is not needed especially when you have major needs in the KC area. Should take that money to rebuild and cap the loop and rebuild I-70 from Downtown to 470.
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:09 pm
by Anthony_Hugo98
My favorite part is the fact that the “Reconnecting communities” program is being used to fucking widen highways elsewhere…
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 1:53 pm
by dnweava
GRID wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:07 pm
Said all along this has no chance of opening prior to the world cup. They might start construction before the WC if they are lucky.
How does MO have the money to widen I-70 across the entire state when most of it doesn't need it? I-70 only needs to be six lanes to Odessa for example. Widening it from Odessa to Colombia is not needed especially when you have major needs in the KC area. Should take that money to rebuild and cap the loop and rebuild I-70 from Downtown to 470.
It absolutely should NOT be widened to Odessa, that's just going to encourage more exurban sprawl.
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:57 pm
by DaveKCMO
The lid has two major issues:
1. No one has addressed the EIS comments.
2. No one (with the capacity as judged by the feds) has stepped up to build/maintain the project.
Until these are addressed, nothing happens... especially the eastern expansion proposed by the team.
As for WC, this isn't even the focus area for FIFA. That would be Union Station and Arrowhead.
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:08 am
by GRID
dnweava wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 1:53 pm
GRID wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:07 pm
Said all along this has no chance of opening prior to the world cup. They might start construction before the WC if they are lucky.
How does MO have the money to widen I-70 across the entire state when most of it doesn't need it? I-70 only needs to be six lanes to Odessa for example. Widening it from Odessa to Colombia is not needed especially when you have major needs in the KC area. Should take that money to rebuild and cap the loop and rebuild I-70 from Downtown to 470.
It absolutely should NOT be widened to Odessa, that's just going to encourage more exurban sprawl.
No, it's just for safely reasons. I-70 through there is not congested, so adding a lane is not going to encourage sprawl. The on and off rams are not safe the way it is now. They haven't been for a very long time.
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:24 am
by langosta
Break ground by end of year starting with western blocks. 1/2 funded for the entire project, all blocks, secured. This has been slowed by MODOT and Feds.
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:30 am
by TheUrbanRoo
Finally some news rolling the last couple days
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:39 am
by Sani
DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:57 pm
The lid has two major issues:
1. No one has addressed the EIS comments.
2. No one (with the capacity as judged by the feds) has stepped up to build/maintain the project.
Until these are addressed, nothing happens... especially the eastern expansion proposed by the team.
As for WC, this isn't even the focus area for FIFA. That would be Union Station and Arrowhead.
So what will it take to get MoDOT to fund an EIS? (As an aside, this shouldn't require a super involved EIS to the same degree that a new freeway or bridge would. A stormwater management study, sure. But it's already all concrete. Looking for endangered species seems like a waste of time.)
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:34 am
by DColeKC
langosta wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:24 am
Break ground by end of year starting with western blocks. 1/2 funded for the entire project, all blocks, secured. This has been slowed by MODOT and Feds.
Where are you seeing this?
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:48 pm
by langosta
DColeKC wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:34 am
langosta wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:24 am
Break ground by end of year starting with western blocks. 1/2 funded for the entire project, all blocks, secured. This has been slowed by MODOT and Feds.
Where are you seeing this?
from the city manager radio interview
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:32 pm
by DColeKC
langosta wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:48 pm
DColeKC wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:34 am
langosta wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:24 am
Break ground by end of year starting with western blocks. 1/2 funded for the entire project, all blocks, secured. This has been slowed by MODOT and Feds.
Where are you seeing this?
from the city manager radio interview
Very nice.
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 1:00 pm
by mjbauer95
I went to a Linda Hall event today with the city engineer, Nicolas Bosonetto, about highway removal. Very good talk. He seems like exactly the kind of person we want working for KCMO. I think it was recorded, I'll post it here when it becomes available.