Capping the Loop

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daGOAT wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:10 pm Truman Boulevard! That street definitely has room to be a beautiful modern blvd!
Atomic Collision is going nuclear anyway. Let's just go all the way.
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Cratedigger wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:20 pm
daGOAT wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:10 pm Truman Boulevard! That street definitely has room to be a beautiful modern blvd!
Atomic Collision is going nuclear anyway. Let's just go all the way.
Don’t tempt me with a good time
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KCPowercat wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 2:24 pm We already close Grand 3x a week.
Closed again today, all day, with no events in sight. This shit is ridiculous. It happens literally 2-3x a week like clockwork for no apparent reason. I've been biting my tongue on the topic again for months, but literally almost every time you seem to step outside the street is closed. What a waste and abuse of power. I wish I could close the streets the way Cordish does. At will.
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Probably time to ping our council on this.
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One of our next meetings we might bring this idea up and see what can be done
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Had a thought the other day for this park -- can we put up some tables & chess in the park? That would be a really good touch and attraction for some. Should be so easy to do too.
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KCPowercat wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:22 pm Probably time to ping our council on this.
And again. All day today, tonight, and presumably tomorrow. No events at T-Mobil Center. Must be for fan safety within P&L for Sundays game. However, that makes no sense because literally nobodys in the part of the street that's blocked off, and if it was really about safety then all bordering roads should be closed. Not just this baby chunk of Grand.
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Honestly, if I'm on the council -- and it is election season -- this is nowhere near the top of my list. Candidates have to talk about real basic stuff right now: crime, schools, homelessness, transit, housing, the city's climate response. This project helps none of those fundamentals and only adds infrastructure burden to their bottom line (MoDOT will likely force the city to take ownership of the remaining crossings, like they did with Main for streetcar).

While it's admirable that the private sector will play a role with design, construction, and management, don't think for a second they'll take on the liability that comes with owning multiple structures on top of a big federally funded asset. That will rest 100% with taxpayers.
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Public meetings coming up
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Dave, you talk like you're running for Council.
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langosta wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:47 am Public meetings coming up
10 Million pledged by H&R Block. $45 Million in total from Private & Federal sources
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That's really impressive. What does H&R Block have to gain from this? They are not that close to the park.
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GRID wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:05 am That's really impressive. What does H&R Block have to gain from this? They are not that close to the park.
One block away.
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shinatoo wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:11 am
GRID wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:05 am That's really impressive. What does H&R Block have to gain from this? They are not that close to the park.
One block away.
I understand. But still Even Cordish and Loews are not donating that much are they?

It seems like Block is just mostly being a good downtown community citizen which is somewhat rare in KC and nice to see.
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GRID wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:05 am That's really impressive. What does H&R Block have to gain from this? They are not that close to the park.
If I were a betting man, I would wager taxes have something to do with it.
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GRID wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:29 am
shinatoo wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:11 am
GRID wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:05 am That's really impressive. What does H&R Block have to gain from this? They are not that close to the park.
One block away.
I understand. But still Even Cordish and Loews are not donating that much are they?

It seems like Block is just mostly being a good downtown community citizen which is somewhat rare in KC and nice to see.
Loews gave $5mil

Has Cordish publicly announced an amount?

Also may be linked elsewhere, but project website is up

https://kcsouthloopproject.org/
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Some of it might have to do with Blocks office being nearby but also some has to be that they just care about downtown.
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Cost now estimated at $200 million.
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So $28.6 is from the feds, $10 is from the Blochs.

If my math is right here that means cordish is contributing almost nothing so far.

If they ask for anything in the park, I hope they're invited to take a dip in the river unless that number goes up significantly.
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Bloch is being a good citizen for sure, but they can also see what the potential gains and impact there are from it to downtown. It will be a big project and catalyst for continued development. I also believe Bloch has other sub-companies in which they hold real estate, be it building or land, within the downtown area that would benefit, especially it a developer wants to buy what they hold to develop something.

So a nice win for the city, and for Bloch for sure.
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