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108 Grand
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 4:07 pm
by Chris Stritzel
This is the site that was once a coal yard for the Vicinity Energy Plant. It was listed for sale a few months back. A Development Assistance Team meeting has been requested by Jonathan Arnold (2nd and Delaware) for a "mixed-income, mixed-use residential development. This is a project, and site, to watch since it's a very large parcel that borders the Grand bridge and is one of the last big development sites in the neighborhood. The site is 3.6 acres in size.
In terms of design, I expect a similar look to 2nd and Delaware, but I hope the height is a little taller to establish a presence and push density. It's at the point where new projects must go larger or else we'll be all out of land and have junk projects and density (looking at you 3rd and Grand).
https://compasskc.kcmo.org/EnerGov_Prod ... 6b2d6a0f25
Re: 108 Grand
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:07 pm
by FangKC
I wonder how much cleanup of the site will cost since it's a former coal yard?
Re: 108 Grand
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:38 pm
by normalthings
FangKC wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:07 pm
I wonder how much cleanup of the site will cost since it's a former coal yard?
Supposedly most was already completed but you never really know until you do a study.
Re: 108 Grand
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:24 am
by dukuboy1
Isn’t there a bunch of heavy duty electrical transformers and such right there? Plus other things feeding into that steam production company building on the East side of Grand. Just curious where this is and how all this elements play into it. Thinking if it is not that spot do you want a major electrical site being your neighbor
Re: 108 Grand
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:39 am
by FangKC
yes, there is an electrical transformer yard to the west of the parcel.
At one point, that development site was being discussed for a parking garage.
Re: 108 Grand
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:49 am
by smh
Like 2nd & Delaware, this site has great river and city views. Hopefully Jonathan can pull off a project of the quality of his prior work.
Re: 108 Grand
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:44 pm
by alejandro46
FangKC wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:39 am
yes, there is an electrical transformer yard to the west of the parcel.
At one point, that development site was being discussed for a parking garage.
Just a couple of floors of parking and shield that area. Shouldn't be too much of a issue. It's got great access to the park + RM.
Re: 108 Grand
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:59 pm
by dukuboy1
alejandro46 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:44 pm
FangKC wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:39 am
yes, there is an electrical transformer yard to the west of the parcel.
At one point, that development site was being discussed for a parking garage.
Just a couple of floors of parking and shield that area. Shouldn't be too much of a issue. It's got great access to the park + RM.
good to know there are some options because that does make the area look more industrial and unsightly, especially if you are planning residential renters there.
Re: 108 Grand
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 2:12 pm
by KCDowntown
Found a mention of the # of units in the Conditions section of the
Developer Assistance permit.
It states the Phase 1 of this project has 529 units.
KCDowntown
Re: 108 Grand
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 3:09 pm
by im2kull
KCDowntown wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 2:12 pm
Found a mention of the # of units in the Conditions section of the
Developer Assistance permit.
It states the Phase 1 of this project has 529 units.
KCDowntown
Here's to hoping for twin ten story towers! At least.
Re: 108 Grand
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 3:36 pm
by langosta
, for Five Hundred Twenty-nine (529) multi-family units in Phase 1, For Phase 2, for Three hundred (300) multi-family units.
Re: 108 Grand
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 4:19 pm
by Chris Stritzel
This is EXACTLY what this site needs to make an impact. It's down in the hole as-is. A project with 829 apartments on 3.6 acres has to mean these will be high-rise buildings. Potentially touching City Harvest-level height.
I'm excited to see the designs for this. Here's to hoping the architecture is fitting for an iconic entrance to the neighborhood from the Riverfront Park.
Re: 108 Grand
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 4:31 pm
by smh
Chris Stritzel wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 4:19 pm
This is EXACTLY what this site needs to make an impact. It's down in the hole as-is. A project with 829 apartments on 3.6 acres has to mean these will be high-rise buildings. Potentially touching City Harvest-level height.
I'm excited to see the designs for this. Here's to hoping the architecture is fitting for an iconic entrance to the neighborhood from the Riverfront Park.
But where will they park Chris. /s
Re: 108 Grand
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 4:34 pm
by Chris Stritzel
smh wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 4:31 pm
Chris Stritzel wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 4:19 pm
This is EXACTLY what this site needs to make an impact. It's down in the hole as-is. A project with 829 apartments on 3.6 acres has to mean these will be high-rise buildings. Potentially touching City Harvest-level height.
I'm excited to see the designs for this. Here's to hoping the architecture is fitting for an iconic entrance to the neighborhood from the Riverfront Park.
But where will they park Chris. /s
We must build a garagemahal as a testament to KC’s commitment to automobiles. We are the new motor city, let’s build a monument to such!
Re: 108 Grand
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:23 pm
by TheUrbanRoo
This one, Lux’s new one, the big proposed tower over the west side…lots of these suddenly appearing!
Re: 108 Grand
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:52 pm
by trexel94
TheUrbanRoo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:23 pm
This one, Lux’s new one, the big proposed tower over the west side…lots of these suddenly appearing!
KCTenants - That's a nice tower proposal you have there, would be a shame if something were to "happen" to it.
Re: 108 Grand
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 12:36 am
by TheUrbanRoo
trexel94 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:52 pm
TheUrbanRoo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:23 pm
This one, Lux’s new one, the big proposed tower over the west side…lots of these suddenly appearing!
KCTenants - That's a nice tower proposal you have there, would be a shame if something were to "happen" to it.
Honestly, Tenants group don't worry me as much as the Parking NIMBY's these days. The council bends much more to those people.
Re: 108 Grand
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:59 pm
by Cratedigger
https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... ce=twitter
Got a laugh at the closing of this article:
Arnold's city submission does not specify how many parking spaces its First and Grand proposal could house.
Re: 108 Grand
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:08 pm
by smh
Oh, this is a Jonathan Arnold project. Well that is very exciting. Can't start soon enough!
Re: 108 Grand
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:06 pm
by TheUrbanRoo
Yes but also think about how much less of a nightmare this will be to deal with since nobody parks here really. They can't complain "you're taking away our parking that we've used for 20 years!!"