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10th and Main Southwest Corner (former transit center)

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:46 am
by FangKC
Kevin Collison is reporting that KCATA has asked developers for ideas for redeveloping the former transit center on the southwest corner of 10th and Main.

KCATA Seeks Development Ideas for Tenth and Main Including New HQ

The KCATA is requesting proposals for its former transit center property at 10th and Main, including a potential new office building to house its headquarters and other tenants.

The agency is seeking proposals that call for a transportation-oriented development (TOD) and would occupy about two-thirds of the approximately 1/2-acre site in the heart of downtown.
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It suggests a “Regional Transit Authority Headquarters” of about 30,000 square-feet that would include ground level commercial space and the potential development of an additional two- to three floors for office, retail or other uses.
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The potential relocation of the KCATA offices from its current address at 1200 E. 18th St. is part of a larger strategic real estate plan by the agency, under the direction of Robbie Makinen, president and CEO.

The agency controls approximately 18 acres along East 18th Street including its offices, maintenance barn and vacant land. It’s located between the East Crossroads and 18th & Vine District.

Makinen has said he’d like to make it to make it available for other long-term development.
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https://cityscenekc.com/kcata-seeks-dev ... krvf8Oy8iY

Location:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1017335 ... a=!3m1!1e3

Re: 10th and Main Southwest Corner (former transit center)

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:18 am
by flyingember
30k sq ft would be what, three floors? Union Carbide + Lane Printing is 10k per floor combined and isn't too far off 3/4 the size described

So that's a 6-7 story building.

Seems like a waste of space for that spot. Should me double that height at least

Re: 10th and Main Southwest Corner (former transit center)

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:03 am
by smh
Glad to see this moving forward. We need better green space downtown, not necessarily more, and given this sites location on the streetcar line in the heart of downtown it has always seemed to me it makes more sense as a building than a plaza.

Re: 10th and Main Southwest Corner (former transit center)

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:05 am
by KCPowercat
I still like the idea of a food truck parking spot but yeah this isn't the best location for it. Get something interesting in there.

Re: 10th and Main Southwest Corner (former transit center)

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:18 am
by moderne
Back in the late eighties downtown office boom there was a post modern mid rise with a curved facade along the intersection proposed. The Star had renderings.

Re: 10th and Main Southwest Corner (former transit center)

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:08 pm
by DaveKCMO
Here's the RFP: https://www.kcata.org/procurement/ridek ... h-main-tod

Proposals due October 13.

Re: 10th and Main Southwest Corner (former transit center)

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:43 pm
by atticus23
moderne wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:18 am Back in the late eighties downtown office boom there was a post modern mid rise with a curved facade along the intersection proposed. The Star had renderings.
Would love to be able to find said renderings.

Re: 10th and Main Southwest Corner (former transit center)

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:33 pm
by normalthings
This is the first phase of a rethinking of the current KCATA campus. That lane at 18th and Vine could fit a stadium, an innovation district, maybe both. There are better uses for the land and with the facilities ageing it sounds like they are taking a look at moving some pieces.

Re: 10th and Main Southwest Corner (former transit center)

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:33 am
by FangKC
atticus23 wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:43 pm
moderne wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:18 am Back in the late eighties downtown office boom there was a post modern mid rise with a curved facade along the intersection proposed. The Star had renderings.
Would love to be able to find said renderings.
The KC Star donated it's news article clipping library to UMKC's Miller Nichols Library. It's probably there.

Re: 10th and Main Southwest Corner (former transit center)

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:17 pm
by lock+load
atticus23 wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:43 pm
moderne wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:18 am Back in the late eighties downtown office boom there was a post modern mid rise with a curved facade along the intersection proposed. The Star had renderings.
Would love to be able to find said renderings.
The Mid-continent public library has full KC star archives online, going back to the 1880s. Found these from June 1984.


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Re: 10th and Main Southwest Corner (former transit center)

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:11 pm
by Chris Stritzel
Peak 80's design

Re: 10th and Main Southwest Corner (former transit center)

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:51 pm
by atticus23
Peak indeed!!! Thank you guys for the resources and the pics!

Re: 10th and Main Southwest Corner (former transit center)

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:03 pm
by FangKC
It's not an unattractive building. I wonder what the reason ultimately was for it not getting built?

Re: 10th and Main Southwest Corner (former transit center)

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:15 pm
by flyingember
FangKC wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:03 pm It's not an unattractive building. I wonder what the reason ultimately was for it not getting built?
The Savings and Loan Crisis his in 1986. A primary cause of more than 1000 banks failing was bad real estate lending.
So it's not impossible it was delayed long enough they lost their financing.

The rest of KC Place was cancelled around the same period. One started construction in 1985 but none of the rest of the complex was built.

Re: 10th and Main Southwest Corner (former transit center)

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:31 pm
by TheLastGentleman
lock+load wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:17 pmThe Mid-continent public library has full KC star archives online, going back to the 1880s. Found these from June 1984.


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Great detective work! You wouldn't happen to be able to find a rendering of the unbuilt UMB tower at 11th and Walnut, would you?

Re: 10th and Main Southwest Corner (former transit center)

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:54 pm
by FangKC
Do you have a guess at the year spread?

Re: 10th and Main Southwest Corner (former transit center)

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:02 pm
by TheLastGentleman
FangKC wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:54 pm Do you have a guess at the year spread?
The UMB building was completed in 1986 as far as I can tell, so any articles would’ve been around then

Re: 10th and Main Southwest Corner (former transit center)

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:19 pm
by normalthings
TheLastGentleman wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:02 pm
FangKC wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:54 pm Do you have a guess at the year spread?
The UMB building was completed in 1986 as far as I can tell, so any articles would’ve been around then
I would assume 84 or 85 for renderings of something completed in 86

Re: 10th and Main Southwest Corner (former transit center)

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:25 pm
by lock+load
TheLastGentleman wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:31 pm Great detective work! You wouldn't happen to be able to find a rendering of the unbuilt UMB tower at 11th and Walnut, would you?
Here is the 70s plan - haven't found anything from the 80s.

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Re: 10th and Main Southwest Corner (former transit center)

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:53 pm
by TheLastGentleman
lock+load wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:25 pmHere is the 70s plan - haven't found anything from the 80s.
Thanks for looking! I've never seen these plans either!