KCRag Forum

SingleMalt12 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:25 pm

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:37 pm oh sure it looks okay in the air, take a spin around streetview

https://www.google.com/maps/place/DELMA ... 83.0423677

I live in Detroit so I don't need to rely on streetview. There are three casinos in or near downtown Detroit. They aren't the story of downtown. Dan Gilbert is. Billions invested in new & rehab. REsidential, retail, commercial, restaurants, etc. Thousands of jobs downtown. Google has an office in the office building part of the basketball/hockey arena. Bottom line: if you want a better downtown you need a billionaire or two who want to leave a legacy. Casinos are not going to do it.

normalthings wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:13 pm

SingleMalt12 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:25 pm

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:37 pm oh sure it looks okay in the air, take a spin around streetview

https://www.google.com/maps/place/DELMA ... 83.0423677

I live in Detroit so I don't need to rely on streetview. There are three casinos in or near downtown Detroit. They aren't the story of downtown. Dan Gilbert is. Billions invested in new & rehab. REsidential, retail, commercial, restaurants, etc. Thousands of jobs downtown. Google has an office in the office building part of the basketball/hockey arena. Bottom line: if you want a better downtown you need a billionaire or two who want to leave a legacy. Casinos are not going to do it.

I guess Stan Durwood did that in KC to a lesser extent. Cliff Illig has decided his legacy will be at VIllage West. The Garmin guys haven't really done anything legacy related yet.

Anthony_Hugo98 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:15 pm

normalthings wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:13 pm

SingleMalt12 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:25 pm

I live in Detroit so I don't need to rely on streetview. There are three casinos in or near downtown Detroit. They aren't the story of downtown. Dan Gilbert is. Billions invested in new & rehab. REsidential, retail, commercial, restaurants, etc. Thousands of jobs downtown. Google has an office in the office building part of the basketball/hockey arena. Bottom line: if you want a better downtown you need a billionaire or two who want to leave a legacy. Casinos are not going to do it.

I guess Stan Durwood did that in KC to a lesser extent. Cliff Illig has decided his legacy will be at VIllage West. The Garmin guys haven't really done anything legacy related yet.

They do a marathon. Practically Rockefeller out here.

SingleMalt12 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:25 pm

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:37 pm oh sure it looks okay in the air, take a spin around streetview

https://www.google.com/maps/place/DELMA ... 83.0423677

I live in Detroit so I don't need to rely on streetview. There are three casinos in or near downtown Detroit. They aren't the story of downtown. Dan Gilbert is. Billions invested in new & rehab. REsidential, retail, commercial, restaurants, etc. Thousands of jobs downtown. Google has an office in the office building part of the basketball/hockey arena. Bottom line: if you want a better downtown you need a billionaire or two who want to leave a legacy. Casinos are not going to do it.

SingleMalt12 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:25 pm

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:37 pm oh sure it looks okay in the air, take a spin around streetview

https://www.google.com/maps/place/DELMA ... 83.0423677

I live in Detroit so I don't need to rely on streetview. There are three casinos in or near downtown Detroit. They aren't the story of downtown. Dan Gilbert is. Billions invested in new & rehab. REsidential, retail, commercial, restaurants, etc. Thousands of jobs downtown. Google has an office in the office building part of the basketball/hockey arena. Bottom line: if you want a better downtown you need a billionaire or two who want to leave a legacy. Casinos are not going to do it.

Anthony_Hugo98 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:30 pm If Ballys is serious about making the Casino KC site not garbage, then there won’t even be a need for a downtown casino in the future. SC to its front door is basically all the more DT KC needs a casino

DColeKC wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:25 pm

SingleMalt12 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:25 pm

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:37 pm oh sure it looks okay in the air, take a spin around streetview

https://www.google.com/maps/place/DELMA ... 83.0423677

I live in Detroit so I don't need to rely on streetview. There are three casinos in or near downtown Detroit. They aren't the story of downtown. Dan Gilbert is. Billions invested in new & rehab. REsidential, retail, commercial, restaurants, etc. Thousands of jobs downtown. Google has an office in the office building part of the basketball/hockey arena. Bottom line: if you want a better downtown you need a billionaire or two who want to leave a legacy. Casinos are not going to do it.

Billions have been invested in downtown KC with nearly 1 billion by one developer alone. A downtown casino was just an idea and I don’t think anyone on here believes we need one to help with anything. No offense, but while smaller, KC has a much better downtown than Detroit at the moment.

normalthings wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:51 pm

Anthony_Hugo98 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:30 pm If Ballys is serious about making the Casino KC site not garbage, then there won’t even be a need for a downtown casino in the future. SC to its front door is basically all the more DT KC needs a casino

i wonder if they will expand the gaming floor. Smaller then peers if I remember right.

A hotel at Bally's makes a lot more sense with the women's stadium down there

normalthings wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:11 pm

DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:04 pm

Cratedigger wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:57 pm Parks department needs revenue. Is there any possibility of a public private partnership that helps fund maintenance to downtown parks + gives us a destination restaurant on the river?

Also if Bally’s is smart they’ll take advantage of this exact opportunity when they renovate their casino

They won't, but yes replace that parking lot with the hotel and a riverfront restaurant instead of putting it next to the freeway embankment (which I think is the plan?).

This is one of the oldest site maps. But hotel will be connected to casino and right by the main entrance. 03 and 02 on the map is where hotel is going iirc

Rhode Island-based Bally's and Overland Park-based True North Hotel Group have discussed building a 123-room hotel outside Bally's Kansas City Casino. The casino owner has expressed interest in pursuing the possibility, according to its landlord, the Port Authority of Kansas City. Port commissioners on Monday authorized amendments to the casino's lease terms with the local agency and city that would need to be executed before such a hotel could be built.

KCFan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:31 am I know casinos are tied to the river by law, but I'd love to see Missouri cut that requirement and see KC build a Vegas-style casino somewhere downtown. I just think you get a first class casino with all the bells and whistles that it would really be additive to attracting convention business and complimentary to people coming into town for T-Mobile Center and possibly downtown Royals games in the future. I just think it was a major mistake by Missouri to put casinos off on their own islands to where they're disproportionately used by gambling addicts. I've literally been to Vegas more than I've been to KC casinos.

WoodDraw wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:34 pm

KCFan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:31 am I know casinos are tied to the river by law, but I'd love to see Missouri cut that requirement and see KC build a Vegas-style casino somewhere downtown. I just think you get a first class casino with all the bells and whistles that it would really be additive to attracting convention business and complimentary to people coming into town for T-Mobile Center and possibly downtown Royals games in the future. I just think it was a major mistake by Missouri to put casinos off on their own islands to where they're disproportionately used by gambling addicts. I've literally been to Vegas more than I've been to KC casinos.

I have so many incoherent thoughts about this. I am not convinced we’ve made the right choice as a society as far as this goes. But if we’re going to do it, make it fun?

It’s kinda like should there be a strip club on main? Maybe no? If you decide to have one should you be able to see tits? I think yeah?