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Which is making a bad situation dangerous.

moderne wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:05 pm Which is making a bad situation dangerous.

I don’t disagree that removing the fence creates an unacceptable dangerous situation. I wonder if the fence was rented by the previous owners, new owners didn’t realize that and didn’t pay the bills, leading to the fence being removed by the lessor.

Its those vaults under the sidewalks the make me apprehensive. I can envision them collapsing under a group of Shriners or Baptists.

The Loew's deal said no city incentives for any hotel over 300 rooms for 10 years, IIRC.

missingkc wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:45 pm The Loew's deal said no city incentives for any hotel over 300 rooms for 10 years, IIRC.

So this would be able to slide in under that cap. Interesting.

Is a hotel in Power & Light subject to that same rule?

I don't see why not.

moderne wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:49 am Not much confidence in these developers if they are maintaining a dangerous building demolition site for years. Not good neighbors.

I am shocked no one has fallen off yet.

moderne wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:19 pm Its those vaults under the sidewalks the make me apprehensive. I can envision them collapsing under a group of Shriners or Baptists.

Now imagine all of the vaults we can't see......

langosta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:09 am

moderne wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:19 pm Its those vaults under the sidewalks the make me apprehensive. I can envision them collapsing under a group of Shriners or Baptists.

Now imagine all of the vaults we can't see......

And all the vehicles that park on sidewalks.

grovester wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:54 am

langosta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:09 am

moderne wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:19 pm Its those vaults under the sidewalks the make me apprehensive. I can envision them collapsing under a group of Shriners or Baptists.

Now imagine all of the vaults we can't see......

And all the vehicles that park on sidewalks.

Cars park on viaducts all the time. There's zero reason a vault under a sidewalk is an issue for anything as long as it's poured thick enough

It looks like someone submitted a 311 report on December 10 about the fence removal and an inspector went out on December 19. Such a hazard should not be taking this long to resolve.

There's more than zero reasons the vaults are an issue. The rusting re bar and spalling concrete have brought down mighty bridges in the Twin Cities and in Genoa

flyingember wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:52 am

grovester wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:54 am

langosta wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:09 am

Now imagine all of the vaults we can't see......

And all the vehicles that park on sidewalks.

Cars park on viaducts all the time. There's zero reason a vault under a sidewalk is an issue for anything as long as it's poured thick enough

Yes, I'm sure there has been no environmental degradation nor structural integrity issues regarding demolition of an adjacent building and all has been vetted by an engineer.

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I'm taking a bird and slaloming

normalthings wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:58 am

moderne wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:49 am Not much confidence in these developers if they are maintaining a dangerous building demolition site for years. Not good neighbors.

They purchased it this year. It’s not their fault the site has been like this for so long, it’s just their fault the fence was taken down.

Owner's website

https://ltdhospitality.com/portfolio/

The city looked at this site for a BAP replacement garage. Sounded like the new owner was willing to partner with the City to do a below-ground convention garage + development over top. A below-ground garage here was not seen as cost-effective as new garages by YMCA and KCS.

A bit confused. It's not cost effective but still exploring vs broadway or Y site?

I thought the city was doing this as cheap as they possibly could.

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:17 pm A bit confused. It's not cost effective but still exploring vs broadway or Y site?

I thought the city was doing this as cheap as they possibly could.

They took a look at this site but determined the below-grade parking to be too $$$$$. Moved to Broadyway/YMCA options