Re: OFFICIAL - Waddell & Reed - 14th & Baltimore
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:11 pm
More likely they would have built a new structure on the land they recently purchased from Union Station (the East Yards site) next to their existing building.AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:32 pm Can’t help but thinking if Waddell Reed had stayed to occupy this building that BCBS would’ve had Strata or TMobile site tower built for their new office.
That would've been a positive as well. Left one on the table here.FangKC wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:30 pmMore likely they would have built a new structure on the land they recently purchased from Union Station (the East Yards site) next to their existing building.AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:32 pm Can’t help but thinking if Waddell Reed had stayed to occupy this building that BCBS would’ve had Strata or TMobile site tower built for their new office.
Saying you want to go find a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow isn't being positive, it's being an idiot.AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:11 pmMe being the one guy who makes these statements is also meant to neutralize the 10:1 ratio of doom to positive statements
If you wanna disagree with a statement that's fine, but you don't have to be an asshole just because someone doesn't share your opinionWoodDraw wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:38 amSaying you want to go find a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow isn't being positive, it's being an idiot.AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:11 pmMe being the one guy who makes these statements is also meant to neutralize the 10:1 ratio of doom to positive statements
Think of any project downtown that you like and then pull up the thread on this forum discussing it for years. There are a lot of people here that have dedicated more than that to accomplishing things they want.
You're the kid in the back that keeps saying, "are we there yet? Are we there yet?" over and over again.
You'll appreciate it in the long run. You can call it an opinion, but really it was just a hope and feeling and I'm happy to crush it for you.AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:03 pmIf you wanna disagree with a statement that's fine, but you don't have to be an asshole just because someone doesn't share your opinionWoodDraw wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:38 amSaying you want to go find a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow isn't being positive, it's being an idiot.AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:11 pm
Me being the one guy who makes these statements is also meant to neutralize the 10:1 ratio of doom to positive statements
Think of any project downtown that you like and then pull up the thread on this forum discussing it for years. There are a lot of people here that have dedicated more than that to accomplishing things they want.
You're the kid in the back that keeps saying, "are we there yet? Are we there yet?" over and over again.
I'm good, actually. And I still stand by my original statement which is completely reasonable and had been said by many others.
Hey, I'm a fan of the optimism -- it's a nice change from much of the posts on here.AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:05 pmI'm good, actually. And I still stand by my original statement which is completely reasonable and had been said by many others.
Sometimes I wonder who on this forum has actually impacted any development downtown and who just likes to talk about it? Nothing wrong with either but at the end of the day you've got your talkers and your doers.WoodDraw wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:38 amSaying you want to go find a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow isn't being positive, it's being an idiot.AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:11 pmMe being the one guy who makes these statements is also meant to neutralize the 10:1 ratio of doom to positive statements
Think of any project downtown that you like and then pull up the thread on this forum discussing it for years. There are a lot of people here that have dedicated more than that to accomplishing things they want.
You're the kid in the back that keeps saying, "are we there yet? Are we there yet?" over and over again.
I mean I'm peanut gallery for nearly everything on here but isn't that the point of this forum? Not everyone needs to developing to be part of the conversation.DColeKC wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:04 pmReally? I don’t get that feeling when discussing certain topics. Could just be ignorance on said topic. There are a few who clearly know what’s up and some who are peanut gallery status. I fall into that second category on a few topics myself.
With some it's not that they're giving insight, it's just that they've clearly been so worn down by 90's & early 2000's letdowns that nothing is appeasing anymore, and it festers on even optimistic times.Cratedigger wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:18 pmI mean I'm peanut gallery for nearly everything on here but isn't that the point of this forum? Not everyone needs to developing to be part of the conversation.
No I agree that you don’t need to be a mover and a shaker to have an opinion and be a part of the conversation. I think the comment above made it sound like all the old heads on here have done such great things for downtown when in reality, the most vocal haven’t actually done anything. And that’s fine but we shouldn’t be telling younger members of this forum to restrain their enthusiasm or that they’re idiots for wanting it all and wanting it now. Simply being involved in the discussion for decades doesn’t earn anyone a special badge.Cratedigger wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:18 pmI mean I'm peanut gallery for nearly everything on here but isn't that the point of this forum? Not everyone needs to developing to be part of the conversation.
I was just thinking about this the other day: Why did you join the Rag? Is that why you're still here? If not why now? (generally speaking, not directed at DoleKC specifically).DColeKC wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:46 amNo I agree that you don’t need to be a mover and a shaker to have an opinion and be a part of the conversation. I think the comment above made it sound like all the old heads on here have done such great things for downtown when in reality, the most vocal haven’t actually done anything. And that’s fine but we shouldn’t be telling younger members of this forum to restrain their enthusiasm or that they’re idiots for wanting it all and wanting it now. Simply being involved in the discussion for decades doesn’t earn anyone a special badge.Cratedigger wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:18 pmI mean I'm peanut gallery for nearly everything on here but isn't that the point of this forum? Not everyone needs to developing to be part of the conversation.
It's not exactly what I meant. I'm sure I was too much of a dick which I'm trying to be better at, but come on it, it's not like you're careful on me when you think I'm wrong.DColeKC wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:46 amNo I agree that you don’t need to be a mover and a shaker to have an opinion and be a part of the conversation. I think the comment above made it sound like all the old heads on here have done such great things for downtown when in reality, the most vocal haven’t actually done anything. And that’s fine but we shouldn’t be telling younger members of this forum to restrain their enthusiasm or that they’re idiots for wanting it all and wanting it now. Simply being involved in the discussion for decades doesn’t earn anyone a special badge.Cratedigger wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:18 pmI mean I'm peanut gallery for nearly everything on here but isn't that the point of this forum? Not everyone needs to developing to be part of the conversation.
I can understand and appreciate that take.WoodDraw wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:58 pmIt's not exactly what I meant. I'm sure I was too much of a dick which I'm trying to be better at, but come on it, it's not like you're careful on me when you think I'm wrong.DColeKC wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:46 amNo I agree that you don’t need to be a mover and a shaker to have an opinion and be a part of the conversation. I think the comment above made it sound like all the old heads on here have done such great things for downtown when in reality, the most vocal haven’t actually done anything. And that’s fine but we shouldn’t be telling younger members of this forum to restrain their enthusiasm or that they’re idiots for wanting it all and wanting it now. Simply being involved in the discussion for decades doesn’t earn anyone a special badge.Cratedigger wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:18 pm
I mean I'm peanut gallery for nearly everything on here but isn't that the point of this forum? Not everyone needs to developing to be part of the conversation.
If someone thinks that Copaken should build a new spec tower, or cordish should pump out new towers all at once, and so on, that's all fine. But like it's also not going to happen and it gets a little exhausting reading the same comment over and over.
I don't really give a fuck about who's been here or not longer. My point was just look at a thread you care about and see how long it takes from when someone firsts posted about it until it opened.
We talk about development in years, not days or weeks. I welcome the enthusiasm, but also have seen people drive themself crazy on this forum. It's not healthy. (Raises hand)
This.WoodDraw wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:58 pm It's not exactly what I meant. I'm sure I was too much of a dick which I'm trying to be better at, but come on it, it's not like you're careful on me when you think I'm wrong.
If someone thinks that Copaken should build a new spec tower, or cordish should pump out new towers all at once, and so on, that's all fine. But like it's also not going to happen and it gets a little exhausting reading the same comment over and over.
I don't really give a fuck about who's been here or not longer. My point was just look at a thread you care about and see how long it takes from when someone firsts posted about it until it opened.
We talk about development in years, not days or weeks. I welcome the enthusiasm, but also have seen people drive themself crazy on this forum. It's not healthy. (Raises hand)