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A tower can house apartments on a small footprint. One only needs to look at the Chambers Building (now Chambers Lofts) on the SW corner of 12th and Walnut. It's a 12-story building (11 over retail). There's not any reason a building on that footprint couldn't be even taller -- say 20-stories.

Just for example, I've copied the P&L Building and placed it over that retail building. It's just a tad-bit wider than the retail building, and if you narrowed that access alley between it and the President Hotel, it would fit.

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Chambers Lofts

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https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0997493 ... a=!3m1!1e3

Streetview:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0999945 ... 384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0999467 ... 384!8i8192

The Waltower Building on the NE corner of 9th and Walnut is another example.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/1329+ ... -94.584248

The Union Carbide Building on Baltimore is another.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/1329 ... -94.584248
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The P&L development agreement seems to require where the fourth residential building goes
In the event that the Developer provides the City with a written notice concerning the approximately 300 unit new residential or combination residential/hotel building and parking structure to be located on Block 138 (collectively the “Fourth Residential Building”)
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Would love to see something like this for the future phases of Cordish's developments. Would really break from the design on 1-3 Light, Loews, and 1400 Baltimore.

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Why does everyone hate the glass design so much? I've seen the argument that they want some difference in the buildings, but we have so many old shitty brick buildings sitting around it makes the glass look nice. Also, glass kinda represents "new, flashy, energetic". The absolute worst ones are the brick ones. Cannot stand those brick ones.
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AlkaliAxel wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:15 pm Why does everyone hate the glass design so much? I've seen the argument that they want some difference in the buildings, but we have so many old shitty brick buildings sitting around it makes the glass look nice. Also, glass kinda represents "new, flashy, energetic". The absolute worst ones are the brick ones. Cannot stand those brick ones.
It’s about breaking up the wall or using a different color for the glass. It creates a more interesting skyline
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AlkaliAxel wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:15 pm ..we have so many old shitty brick buildings sitting around it makes the glass look nice.
::gasp:: no you didn’t!
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AlkaliAxel wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:15 pm Why does everyone hate the glass design so much? I've seen the argument that they want some difference in the buildings, but we have so many old shitty brick buildings sitting around it makes the glass look nice. Also, glass kinda represents "new, flashy, energetic". The absolute worst ones are the brick ones. Cannot stand those brick ones.
variety. I like glass buildings but I also like having buildings that don't all look the same. These "outlined" glass buildings (posted above) evolve throughout the day as light angle and intensity changes.
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I can't imagine them going drastically different on any of the light buildings but do look for them to do something completely different across the highway.
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DColeKC wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 5:08 pm I can't imagine them going drastically different on any of the light buildings but do look for them to do something completely different across the highway.
Are they going to wait till the cap is put in place before building across the highway?
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AlkaliAxel wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 5:21 pm
DColeKC wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 5:08 pm I can't imagine them going drastically different on any of the light buildings but do look for them to do something completely different across the highway.
Are they going to wait till the cap is put in place before building across the highway?
No, leasing rates and demand alone will drive that project.
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maybe they should go and get approvals now so that when they start 3 years late its really on-time
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normalthings wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:04 pm Would love to see something like this for the future phases of Cordish's developments. Would really break from the design on 1-3 Light, Loews, and 1400 Baltimore.

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That looks great, I’d personally like to see something like the new beckford in NYC. I’m loving the movement to incorporate more masonry again.

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would love to see some more modern designed building regardless of glass, stone & glass mix, etc. Just varying heights, designs, etc.
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Is the 4 Light announcement still happening soon?
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normalthings wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:12 pm Is the 4 Light announcement still happening soon?
Nothing planned I know of.
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DColeKC wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:43 am
normalthings wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:12 pm Is the 4 Light announcement still happening soon?
Nothing planned I know of.
Disappointing that they said it was coming then
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normalthings wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:10 pm
DColeKC wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:43 am
normalthings wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:12 pm Is the 4 Light announcement still happening soon?
Nothing planned I know of.
Disappointing that they said it was coming then
Under promise, over deliver should be more common.

Look at the side of the Blackstone. The sign says "Coming 2005" in March 2019.

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Has Cordish ever started construction early on a project? I know they always leak things saying coming soon, but it feels like they always wait until their previous project hits a certain occupancy level.
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Yeah. I was under the impression they would be announcing their next project if not at the 3 light ground breaking than at least prior to end of year
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I wonder if they're waiting on the cap to move forward with 4 Light plans. And by the cap, I mean the infrastructure bill basically since they're trying to get funds from it.
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