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Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:02 pm
by DaveKCMO
moderne wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:56 pm Historic KC is asking to put bank on register and calling for bank bldng to be preserved.
Won't happen if the owner isn't interested -- someone has to pay for the study. See the Plaza church example (and many others). National Register listing doesn't prevent demolition.

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:06 pm
by KCPowercat
Shame.

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:26 am
by town cow
Local historic register listing slows demo way down. Natl register listing does the same if federal $ is involved, btw.

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:03 am
by chaglang
That’s if the rehab has already taken place. Simply listing it nationally gives the building owner access to funding if they choose to rehab the building in a historically appropriate way. Unless work has been done the owner can do whatever they want with the building.

Local register is the opposite: strict rules about rehab and no access to funds. It’s a remarkably dumb option for a property owner to voluntarily pursue, unless they enjoy going to the Landmarks Commission every time they want to change a light bulb.

As David mentioned, HKC can’t force a property into being listed. They will almost certainly try and have Shields hold it in committee indefinitely if it gets that far.

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:30 pm
by langosta
Any updates at the Port KC meeting today?

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:20 pm
by DaveKCMO
langosta wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:30 pm Any updates at the Port KC meeting today?
I wasn't there and I haven't seen the minutes, but I'm gonna guess it was approved.

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:00 am
by langosta
My updated interpretation of the 1 conceptual rendering. Would you guys like to see this done with any other proposed projects?

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Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:51 am
by Critical_Mass
Nice work! You can get a sense of the scale. What are the buildings you show to the north? It's only a one story neighbor.

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:20 am
by flyingember
Critical_Mass wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:51 am Nice work! You can get a sense of the scale. What are the buildings you show to the north? It's only a one story neighbor.
The scale is completely off to the point you can't get a sense of it. There's an existing three story building drawn as shorter than an existing one story building. There's two buildings drawn as three. This building is drawn as wider than it's neighbors to the north which is actually a wider parcel

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:36 am
by normalthings
flyingember wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:20 am
Critical_Mass wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:51 am Nice work! You can get a sense of the scale. What are the buildings you show to the north? It's only a one story neighbor.
The scale is completely off to the point you can't get a sense of it. There's an existing three story building drawn as shorter than an existing one story building. There's two buildings drawn as three. This building is drawn as wider than it's neighbors to the north which is actually a wider parcel
I’m trying to redo the drawing with a better scale for the surrounding buildings - it’s currently just whatever came off of open street

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:00 am
by normalthings
Updates?

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:21 am
by KCDowntown
Advance KC document located here indicates this will be a 4 story office building atop a 4 story parking pedestal with ground floor retail. 50,000 sqft of office space - 13,000 sqft rented to a law firm, the rest spec. Existing buildings at the site will be razed.

KCDowntown

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:05 am
by earthling
Good to hear it will have ground level retail. Hopefully the garage entrance doesn't face Main. If they get incentives, the City should require public shared usage for garage.

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:45 am
by Anthony_Hugo98
Anyone happen to have any updates on this project, I haven’t been able to find anything about it anywhere

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:38 pm
by DaveKCMO
Anthony_Hugo98 wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:45 am Anyone happen to have any updates on this project, I haven’t been able to find anything about it anywhere
Haven't heard a peep. I suspect the incentive request fell on deaf ears.

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:01 am
by normalthings
DaveKCMO wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:38 pm
Anthony_Hugo98 wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:45 am Anyone happen to have any updates on this project, I haven’t been able to find anything about it anywhere
Haven't heard a peep. I suspect the incentive request fell on deaf ears.
Property is up for $1.9 million.

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:42 am
by Chris Stritzel
^ Maybe a new developer will come in and incorporate the old building into a new structure

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:34 am
by CrossroadsUrbanApts
Good idea but tough to do at that acquisition price. Not enough SF in the existing building(s) to pay that price, I would think.

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:43 am
by Critical_Mass
At the very least the facade could be saved and incorporated in-place into the exterior of a larger building built behind it. It is handsome and unique. I would think it would add value/character which you couldn't buy with modern construction materials and methods.

Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:25 am
by TheLastGentleman
Facadectomies are better than nothing