1822 Main Redevlopment

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Just can't get past that rendering. A hotel in Vallarta?
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Shrugs

Is it that far from the River Market City Harvest?

It’s not that bad - especially if it’s making affordable housing work.

Personally this looks like a great add to both the crossroads and main
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Really like the density and scale, hope this gets off the ground, and remaining lots in the crossroads are also this dense
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WoodDraw wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:17 pm Looks good to me.

Also, downtown views changing isn't a valid reason to stop developments. I know it sucks for people that see a decrease in value, but that's life in the city.
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I always assumed the buyer of this site would eventually be able to make a deal with Michael's to fold that property into a larger development, potentially with a new Michael's anchoring the ground floor. Those two properties together, all the way to the corner of 19th and Main, would be a dynamite site. But I don't know if Keith is interested in a deal just yet.
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PortKC's agenda for their 11/14 Development meeting has a line item about the issuance of bonds for a project at 1818-1822 Main.

I thought they has an agreement with Quinton Lucas that limited the area they could do this sort of thing to the City Market and Riverfront (I'm not complaining).

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KCDowntown wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:28 pm PortKC's agenda for their 11/14 Development meeting has a line item about the issuance of bonds for a project at 1818-1822 Main.

I thought they has an agreement with Quinton Lucas that limited the area they could do this sort of thing to the City Market and Riverfront (I'm not complaining).

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Historic Scarritt and Crossroads Projects Seek Incentives from Port KC
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The other project seeking tax incentives from Port KC is what’s described as a new 12-story apartment building being pursued by an entity called 1822 Main LLC. Last week, Copaken Brooks confirmed it was behind the proposed development.

The project calls for 10 stories with 108 apartments above a two-story garage, according to the Port KC document. Copaken is seeking a $36 million bond that would be issued by Port KC.

The developer is asking for a 25-year property tax abatement for the development site which includes three buildings. The first 10 years would be 90 percent; years 11- through 20, 50 percent, and years 21- through 25, 25 percent.

The current property taxes would continue to be paid as well as the incremental increases. The developer also is seeking a sales tax exemption on construction materials.

Copaken Brooks also is seeking incentives from the city Affordable Housing Trust Fund.
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The 1822 Main project plans to set aside 10 percent its apartments for households earning up to 50 percent of Area Median Income and 10 percent would be reserved for those making up to 60 percent AMI.
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No date has been established for when the Port KC Board of Commissioners will consider their applications.
https://cityscenekc.com/historic-scarri ... m-port-kc/
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Contingent on approval will break ground in May, 18-month construction window.

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... ments.html
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What are the chances this project actually gets built?
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grecobs wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:15 am What are the chances this project actually gets built?
As I've noted elsewhere, Copaken's residential record in the Crossroads is strong.
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And they may already have a buyer lined up if it leases out well... SemREF.
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Seems a bit tall for the neighborhood. But I guess that's how you start adding density.
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neurosyphilis wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:21 pm Seems a bit tall for the neighborhood. But I guess that's how you start adding density.
Equal to or below what’s across the street
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I may be a bit off with these photos, but this is roughly the view top floor units in this building will have. I'm not 100% confident in the view for a number of reasons, mostly because I've seen this building being listed as 12-stories and others say it's 14. These are the views from a 14th floor. 12th floor would likely be slightly different.
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"Port KC board to consider issuing $36M bond for 108-unit, 12-story Crossroads apartment project next week; 18-year property tax abatement, 10 percent affordable units at 60 percent AMI."

Good to see some movement. Was wondering if this was gonna sit on the shelf forever or actually move at all.

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That cost per unit is really high. May not move even with incentive.
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Package approved by Port Authority.
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Love to approve incentive packages without any discussion of design. Not to be too crabby, but perhaps this kind of process is why the riverfront is turning into suburbia.
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smh wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:11 am Love to approve incentive packages without any discussion of design. Not to be too crabby, but perhaps this kind of process is why the riverfront is turning into suburbia.
“Can we have incentives pls?”

“Ok, but do good urbanism.”

“No.”

“Ok, here’s your incentive.”
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