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Re: Tracks 215 Project
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:44 pm
by FangKC
Anytime there was a major style change in architecture, people tended not to like the newer version.
Re: Tracks 215 Project
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:53 pm
by flyingember
dukuboy1 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:36 am
but IMHO, an opportunity was missed to build a more modern and architecturally distinct property in the downtown area, rather than what appears to be a very cookie cutter suburban office park type of building.
Buildings don’t get built in a vacuum.
They follow the market and a developer who sees high demand for lower prices will design to a price point. It’s also much easier to spend less on the outside than interior finishes.
At the end of the day people want to show off their kitchen and view, not the outside wall.
Before we built a house (infill) we looked at a lot of open houses on one of those tour weekends. We kept seeing the same iron spindle railing over and over in homes at the same price by a dozen different developers. Our millwork place sold the same product and we discovered they sold 30ish options. So those developers were all picking what cost least.
That’s what’s happening here, they’re picking out what costs the least to buy and install and putting the money into the inside.
It’s always going to be the case and the next new “trendy” design and cladding will replace today’s
Most likely it will start with a super visible project getting a good deal on materials and everyone copies them.
Re: Tracks 215 Project
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:17 pm
by FangKC
Most likely the exteriors will be 3D-printed using some type of hardening slurry. It may not be the concrete we see today, but some type of future compound perhaps mixed with clay soil and a hardener. Think of traditional adobe buildings, but mass-produced. You can have a variety of styles since you just punch in the floor plan on the computer, and the printer adjusts.
Why This 3D-Printed House Will Change The World
https://www.ukconstructionmedia.co.uk/v ... the-world/
Europe’s first fully 3D-printed house gets its first tenants
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... nts-video
This 3D-printed house is made entirely from mud
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/tecla-3d-printed-house
Re: Tracks 215 Project
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:31 pm
by dukuboy1
flyingember wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:53 pm
dukuboy1 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:36 am
but IMHO, an opportunity was missed to build a more modern and architecturally distinct property in the downtown area, rather than what appears to be a very cookie cutter suburban office park type of building.
Buildings don’t get built in a vacuum.
They follow the market and a developer who sees high demand for lower prices will design to a price point. It’s also much easier to spend less on the outside than interior finishes.
At the end of the day people want to show off their kitchen and view, not the outside wall.
Before we built a house (infill) we looked at a lot of open houses on one of those tour weekends. We kept seeing the same iron spindle railing over and over in homes at the same price by a dozen different developers. Our millwork place sold the same product and we discovered they sold 30ish options. So those developers were all picking what cost least.
That’s what’s happening here, they’re picking out what costs the least to buy and install and putting the money into the inside.
It’s always going to be the case and the next new “trendy” design and cladding will replace today’s
Most likely it will start with a super visible project getting a good deal on materials and everyone copies them.
Well if they were going for cheap, mission accomplished on the outside. Inside is very nice, outside is “meh”. Not terrible so as to be a distraction when you go inside & think “what the hell? Outside is dump & inside is amazing” type thing. Just kind of dull outside, nondescript. But screw it, it got built, we needed it, and now we as a country need to get our shit together and get out of this pandemic so we can start filling the thing with meaningful business
Re: Tracks 215 Project
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:03 pm
by flyingember
dukuboy1 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:31 pm
Well if they were going for cheap, mission accomplished on the outside. Inside is very nice, outside is “meh”. Not terrible so as to be a distraction when you go inside & think “what the hell? Outside is dump & inside is amazing” type thing. Just kind of dull outside, nondescript. But screw it, it got built, we needed it, and now we as a country need to get our shit together and get out of this pandemic so we can start filling the thing with meaningful business
You're describing housing for the overwhelming majority of the world. Nondescript.
Re: Tracks 215 Project
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:34 pm
by normalthings
Grading approved, construction permit reviewed
Re: Tracks 215 Project
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:42 pm
by normalthings
new name: The Tracks Apartments at The Old Milwaukee Yard
Re: Tracks 215 Project
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:33 pm
by Chris Stritzel
normalthings wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:42 pm
new name: The Tracks Apartments at The Old Milwaukee Yard
That’s a mouthful.
Re: Tracks 215 Project
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:51 pm
by FangKC
They should build an apartment building at the other end of the freight house and call it Schlitz Place.
Re: Tracks 215 Project
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:48 pm
by AlkaliAxel
normalthings wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:42 pm
new name: The Tracks Apartments at The Old Milwaukee Yard
If you could have this whole project done or the south cap done- which would you choose?
Re: Tracks 215 Project
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:27 am
by DaveKCMO
AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:48 pm
normalthings wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:42 pm
new name: The Tracks Apartments at The Old Milwaukee Yard
If you could have this whole project done or the south cap done- which would you choose?
This project. It adds people and direct tax revenue.
Re: Tracks 215 Project
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:00 am
by dukuboy1
agreed, adds people who will spend money at businesses in the area and work in the area as well (or at least some of them will). The Cap is an awesome project and may be able to generate some revenue if there are commercial/residential structures built on it. But Cap is more of a catalyst to spur continued growth and development by creating a cohesive flow from downtown directly into the cross roads. Making the feeling of connection, which is powerful and will most likely aid in future development.
Re: Tracks 215 Project
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:22 pm
by langosta
Told The Tracks will start soon
Re: Tracks 215 Project
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:19 pm
by normalthings
Re: Tracks 215 Project
Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 9:16 pm
by Chris Stritzel
Fence around the site. Some mounds of dirt are dotted throughout the site. Bridge to Union Station closed for apparent restoration of the stairway and elevator.
Re: Tracks 215 Project
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:06 pm
by normalthings
foundations work has started
Re: Tracks 215 Project
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:21 pm
by TheLastGentleman
Re: Tracks 215 Project
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:54 am
by beautyfromashes
Parking lots getting torn up make me smile. Thanks for the pics.
Re: Tracks 215 Project
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:59 am
by Anthony_Hugo98
beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:54 am
Parking lots getting torn up make me smile. Thanks for the pics.
“bUt wHeRe wiLl wE pArK?!?” *Every suburbanite right now*
Re: Tracks 215 Project
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:45 pm
by DaveKCMO
Heard a construction update at PTC today:
- 12' of excavation
- W. 22nd will be one-way westbound and south sidewalk closed for up to 24 months
- First 12 months will be excavation and concrete trucks
- Next 12 months framing upper floors and finish
