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Re: OFFICIAL - New KCI Terminal

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:01 am
by AlkaliAxel
normalthings wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:03 am
A top Southwest executive said Monday the airline is ready to explore forging a pact that would make Kansas City International Airport its chief sustainability hub for trialing new technologies as part of efforts to sharply throttle carbon emissions.
https://www.flatlandkc.org/news-issues/ ... g-at-kci/
Wow. What are the ramifications of this?

Re: OFFICIAL - New KCI Terminal

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:18 am
by normalthings
AlkaliAxel wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:01 am
normalthings wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:03 am
A top Southwest executive said Monday the airline is ready to explore forging a pact that would make Kansas City International Airport its chief sustainability hub for trialing new technologies as part of efforts to sharply throttle carbon emissions.
https://www.flatlandkc.org/news-issues/ ... g-at-kci/
Wow. What are the ramifications of this?
well on one hand I can see why you'd want to test new technology at an airport that isn't critical to your wider operations. IE New terminal + not an important airport for connections = just enough passengers for us to get data without a big risk

Re: OFFICIAL - New KCI Terminal

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:43 am
by KCPowercat
Why would kci be part of a pact if that were the ramifications

Re: OFFICIAL - New KCI Terminal

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:10 am
by WoodDraw
Good press?

It sounds like it’s about electrification of ground support mostly.

Re: OFFICIAL - New KCI Terminal

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:31 pm
by alejandro46
All ground support vehicles at airports, warehouses, container terminals should be electric. It's a no brainder. They make no long trips, spend lots of idle time, plenty of local power to charge. Would save them a ton on maintenance costs.

Re: OFFICIAL - New KCI Terminal

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:47 pm
by KCPowercat
Is that last part necessarily true of electric vehicles? Seems they would still need regular maintenance but that's just a guess.

I agree makes a lot of sense to make them electric.

Re: OFFICIAL - New KCI Terminal

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:22 pm
by Anthony_Hugo98
KCPowercat wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:47 pm Is that last part necessarily true of electric vehicles? Seems they would still need regular maintenance but that's just a guess.

I agree makes a lot of sense to make them electric.
Much less in regard to their regular maintenance. Tires and brakes are really the only thing to maintain. Electric engines don’t need fluids changed or belts swapped.

Re: OFFICIAL - New KCI Terminal

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:26 pm
by KCPowercat
I figured there would be some sort of lubrication still needed and other maintenance that combustion engines didn't need. Cool!

Re: OFFICIAL - New KCI Terminal

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:33 pm
by WoodDraw
KCPowercat wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:26 pm I figured there would be some sort of lubrication still needed and other maintenance that combustion engines didn't need. Cool!
Electric is significantly cheaper to maintain. A big reason dealerships don’t love electric.


Wouldn’t read too much into this. It’s a new terminal that southwest has a large presence at. Makes sense for them to deploy new tech before rolling it out to other airports. The timing just works.

Re: OFFICIAL - New KCI Terminal

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:27 pm
by alejandro46
WoodDraw wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:33 pm
KCPowercat wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:26 pm I figured there would be some sort of lubrication still needed and other maintenance that combustion engines didn't need. Cool!
Electric is significantly cheaper to maintain. A big reason dealerships don’t love electric.


Wouldn’t read too much into this. It’s a new terminal that southwest has a large presence at. Makes sense for them to deploy new tech before rolling it out to other airports. The timing just works.
Yep, if you buy new stuff may as well buy the latest and greatest, lowest operating cost and chance for the feds/city to chip in for charging infastructure.

EV motors have fluids, but they are typically sealed shut and don't require changing of the fluids for roughly the life of the motor. Coolant and break fluid occasionally need changed. I replaced my Tesla (with another one) and service cost over 3 years was $60 in cabin filters and a set of tires.
https://www.lifewire.com/do-evs-last-as ... 20%20years.

Re: OFFICIAL - New KCI Terminal

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:55 pm
by FangKC
Since the airport will have its' own solar farm, using electric vehicles also makes a lot of sense for climate purposes.

Re: OFFICIAL - New KCI Terminal

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:26 pm
by normalthings
Delta SKyClub approved

Re: OFFICIAL - New KCI Terminal

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:31 pm
by WoodDraw
No just announce our delta/klm/af nonstop ☺️

Re: OFFICIAL - New KCI Terminal

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:34 pm
by normalthings
New Delta Skyclub in Detroit. December 2021
Opening in time for holiday travel, the 4,600-square-foot space near gate A43 seats up to 100 guests and overlooks the concourse and the existing main Club.
Gives an idea of what ours will look like.

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Re: OFFICIAL - New KCI Terminal

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:50 pm
by KCPowercat
that 2nd club seems like it would be a generic one like the Priority Pass ones doesn't it? Maybe capital one new branded ones they are just trying to get their network built out.

Re: OFFICIAL - New KCI Terminal

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:57 pm
by Anthony_Hugo98
KCPowercat wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:50 pm that 2nd club seems like it would be a generic one like the Priority Pass ones doesn't it? Maybe capital one new branded ones they are just trying to get their network built out.
My guess is priority pass, as they usually operate the mid-sized market lounges

Re: OFFICIAL - New KCI Terminal

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 4:20 pm
by normalthings
KCPowercat wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:50 pm that 2nd club seems like it would be a generic one like the Priority Pass ones doesn't it? Maybe capital one new branded ones they are just trying to get their network built out.
Just give me something!

Re: OFFICIAL - New KCI Terminal

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 4:21 pm
by normalthings
MCI awarded $12,802,542 from the first year of the infrastructure bill. Anyone know what this will be used for? Runway replacement Pt.2?


Photos of the bus charging......
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Re: OFFICIAL - New KCI Terminal

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:28 am
by moderne
While we are sprucing up the airport can we get rid of those awful "fountains" made out of billboard armatures? They are so hillbilly, like planters made out of toilets.

Re: OFFICIAL - New KCI Terminal

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:47 pm
by Anthony_Hugo98
moderne wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:28 am While we are sprucing up the airport can we get rid of those awful "fountains" made out of billboard armatures? They are so hillbilly, like planters made out of toilets.
I quite like the aesthetic of them, they could definitely use some refurbishing though