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normalthings wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:25 pm Reverb Social on floor 14 is a lower price, no reservations required alternative to Mercury Room. They are not advertising Reverb Social at all but I think its open Tuesday-Saturday. Same ownership and staff as Mercury Room.

Anthony_Hugo98 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:38 am

normalthings wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:25 pm Reverb Social on floor 14 is a lower price, no reservations required alternative to Mercury Room. They are not advertising Reverb Social at all but I think its open Tuesday-Saturday. Same ownership and staff as Mercury Room.

What we’re their offerings? Is it only drinks?

normalthings wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:12 pm

Anthony_Hugo98 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:38 am

normalthings wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:25 pm Reverb Social on floor 14 is a lower price, no reservations required alternative to Mercury Room. They are not advertising Reverb Social at all but I think its open Tuesday-Saturday. Same ownership and staff as Mercury Room.

What we’re their offerings? Is it only drinks?

Both are drinks only as far as I know. I’m a water person so all I know is Reverb Social does cocktails and it looked like they had a tap. There was a bunch of wine in the store room when we took a look but that might be reserved for Mercury Room.

It didn’t really look like there is space for a kitchen so I doubt food is ever added.

normalthings wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:25 pmUnusual to apartments, the stove hoods actually vent to the outdoors.

WoodDraw wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:17 am Their big issue is that they’re just not competitive on price. There are three or four buildings right here that everyone looks at and everyone tells me it’s been terrible.

Everyone goes to light or the place with amenities

smh wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:36 pm

WoodDraw wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:17 am Their big issue is that they’re just not competitive on price. There are three or four buildings right here that everyone looks at and everyone tells me it’s been terrible.

Everyone goes to light or the place with amenities

Am I reading this right that the issue is they're asking a Light-level rent while offering no amenities?

Anything else you can elaborate on here? It's really interesting that it is fairing so poorly.

normalthings wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:25 pm

smh wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:36 pm

WoodDraw wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:17 am Their big issue is that they’re just not competitive on price. There are three or four buildings right here that everyone looks at and everyone tells me it’s been terrible.

Everyone goes to light or the place with amenities

Am I reading this right that the issue is they're asking a Light-level rent while offering no amenities?

Anything else you can elaborate on here? It's really interesting that it is fairing so poorly.

Their spin is Light like rents with no on-site amenities. They do give 10-30% discounts at many local businesses (gyms, studios, restaurants,etc). However, people don’t really wanna pay extra nor travel to get to those things.


But things I noted on my tour:
- no gym
- no bed room doors
- no major amenity spaces
- basically no outdoor space

Rabble wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:01 pm No doubt major amenities are a requirement for suburban apartment complexes. But for downtown apartment buildings they come off as privileged and isolated. Next will be downtown cul de sacs.

Chris Stritzel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:36 pm

Rabble wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:01 pm No doubt major amenities are a requirement for suburban apartment complexes. But for downtown apartment buildings they come off as privileged and isolated. Next will be downtown cul de sacs.

This ain’t it chief.

It’s not privileged and isolated to have amenities in an apartment building (or any type of building with housing for that matter). When you pay a premium for an apartment or condo, you expect the building to include some sort of amenities. You’re in the minority here when it comes down to this view point (as seen in the leasing numbers here compared to other new buildings nearby).

In my opinion, I think a basic fitness center, a pool of some type, an outdoor space with grills and room to socialize and a commons space (which Reverb has) is of big benefit. You can meet with your neighbors among other things. Also, not all people want to spend $1750 per month on an apartment somewhere and then go and spend an additional amount on a gym membership elsewhere.

Not all people have to use the amenities, and they’re not expected to, but they’re there if the people/residents want to use them at some point.

So, just like suburban apartment complexes, amenity spaces are both part of the experience of living in the building as much as they are about justifying rent. They’re not elitist or isolationist.

As for Downtown Cul De Sacs, please. Spare me that grievance.

Rabble wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:47 pm

Chris Stritzel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:36 pm

Rabble wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:01 pm No doubt major amenities are a requirement for suburban apartment complexes. But for downtown apartment buildings they come off as privileged and isolated. Next will be downtown cul de sacs.

This ain’t it chief.

It’s not privileged and isolated to have amenities in an apartment building (or any type of building with housing for that matter). When you pay a premium for an apartment or condo, you expect the building to include some sort of amenities. You’re in the minority here when it comes down to this view point (as seen in the leasing numbers here compared to other new buildings nearby).

In my opinion, I think a basic fitness center, a pool of some type, an outdoor space with grills and room to socialize and a commons space (which Reverb has) is of big benefit. You can meet with your neighbors among other things. Also, not all people want to spend $1750 per month on an apartment somewhere and then go and spend an additional amount on a gym membership elsewhere.

Not all people have to use the amenities, and they’re not expected to, but they’re there if the people/residents want to use them at some point.

So, just like suburban apartment complexes, amenity spaces are both part of the experience of living in the building as much as they are about justifying rent. They’re not elitist or isolationist.

As for Downtown Cul De Sacs, please. Spare me that grievance.

And please keep low income residents off of my party floor.

DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:57 pm I live in a condo building a block away with no major amenities and no bedroom doors and don't miss them at all. Again, I think most people will pick Reverb because of the smaller building size (that would be me), the precise location (Crossroads is arguably cooler than P&L), and the aesthetics.

smh wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:18 pm

DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:57 pm I live in a condo building a block away with no major amenities and no bedroom doors and don't miss them at all. Again, I think most people will pick Reverb because of the smaller building size (that would be me), the precise location (Crossroads is arguably cooler than P&L), and the aesthetics.

Then what's the issue? $500 off per month is unprecedented downtown. That's house on fire type stuff.

Chris Stritzel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:36 pm

Rabble wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:01 pm No doubt major amenities are a requirement for suburban apartment complexes. But for downtown apartment buildings they come off as privileged and isolated. Next will be downtown cul de sacs.

In my opinion, I think a basic fitness center, a pool of some type, an outdoor space with grills and room to socialize and a commons space (which Reverb has) is of big benefit. You can meet with your neighbors among other things. Also, not all people want to spend $1750 per month on an apartment somewhere and then go and spend an additional amount on a gym membership elsewhere.