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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2022 10:36 pm
by TheUrbanRoo
Anthony_Hugo98 wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 10:16 pm
UMKC Roo wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 10:10 pm Plaza is keeping the lights on this till Feb. 19th in honor of their 100th anniversary.

Why can't we keep them this long every year? It seems kinda silly to only have such a popular item on for only few weeks of the year when it's literally just flipping a light switch.
Scarcity and exclusivity drive demand
I think it would make sense to go through Valentines Day. There's still gonna be plenty of scarcity left the rest of the year.

Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2022 11:26 pm
by WoodDraw
Many many years ago I had an argument with someone involved with the plaza about this and other things. All of these restaurants have setups for the art fair that they never use.

Back when I was told there was a lot of push back against doing anything too boozy or festival like. Easter, Thanksgiving, Christmas, arts fair they were comfortable with and fit in with their high end vibe.

I suspect the lights is more basic and the novelty goes away and you have to pick a date and tbh the lights aren't that special and it's probably best to keep it limited.

Eventually you just become the weird neighbor that won't take their lights down

Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 12:44 am
by beautyfromashes
I know the goal is people, but I have to admit I kind of groan when the lights come on every year. People from Tongonoxie slowly driving through to gawk at the lights never getting out because "there's riots down there!" just annoy me. I like it better when the Plaza is what it should be again: a local shopping area and gathering place. It's become less of that in recent years probably causing the owners to want to delay the transition back. If they did their job correctly, they'd make as much money in April as they would in January, even with the lights left on.

Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 12:47 am
by WoodDraw
Honestly it's probably just to have cute valentine's day pictures. I wouldn't over read this.

Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 12:51 am
by Cratedigger
WoodDraw wrote: Tue Dec 27, 2022 12:47 am Honestly it's probably just to have cute valentine's day pictures. I wouldn't over read this.
I'm surprised they don't just turn it back on for Valentines Day every year

Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 1:07 am
by TheUrbanRoo
WoodDraw wrote: Tue Dec 27, 2022 12:47 am Honestly it's probably just to have cute valentine's day pictures. I wouldn't over read this.
That's why I suggested atleast keep it through Valentines. It makes too much sense IMO.

Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 12:29 pm
by moderne
Most Europeans keep Xmas deco up until Valentines.

Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:12 am
by msmith011
Visited the Plaza over the holiday. The construction boarding around the new Nike store is coming down and signs for Johnny Was have gone up. No other big updates from what I could tell. Curious if Interior Define is still happening... the space looked fairly quiet. On another note, Plaza was super busy.

Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:14 pm
by Highlander
msmith011 wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:12 am Visited the Plaza over the holiday. The construction boarding around the new Nike store is coming down and signs for Johnny Was have gone up. No other big updates from what I could tell. Curious if Interior Define is still happening... the space looked fairly quiet. On another note, Plaza was super busy.
Was down there on the evening of Dec 30 (Friday). First time I ever had trouble finding a parking spot on the Plaza. The place was packed.

Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:09 pm
by TrolliKC
It was pretty busy yesterday afternoon I thought. A lot of people out in the middle of the day

Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:09 am
by TheUrbanRoo
smh wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:22 am No doubt downtown suffers because amenities and jobs have been scattered widely in what we now consider the "core".

But you could also say that about KC in general. It suffers because it is spread too thin.
It feels like recently the Plaza dev has slowed down a bit and has ramped up more downtown

Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:10 am
by normalthings
A well documented trend over the past 10 years

Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:12 pm
by missingkc
But still, a cogent observation by someone that may not have been watching for the last ten years.

Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:51 am
by Cratedigger
Has there been talk from the Plaza Council on the 7th Day Church? I know both Historic KC and Block want to see it remain and the building adds character to the area.

If not a high end restaurant/bar such as the Preachers Son in Bentonville, could it be turned into a live music venue? The Plaza is lacking one. Closest is what, O'Dowds? There are examples around the country of this such as the Temple Performing Arts Center in Philadelphia, the Epiphany Center for the Arts in Chicago, or Mr. Smalls Theater in Millvale, PA.

Another thought would be turning it into a community center for the area. Potentially even including a space for an art gallery. Keep some of the Plaza Art Fair vibes going year round.


Temple Performing Arts Center. Philadelphia, PA
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DePetrus Cultural Community Center. Vught, Netherlands
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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 4:18 pm
by DaveKCMO
I remember making a few trips to the plaza in the morning to transfer to a Johnson County bus route and was shocked at how dead the place was at 9am. Of course, few of the stores are open that early but it was very eerie.

Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 4:25 pm
by smh
I worked in an office on the Plaza in 2011 and commuted on the bus. I similarly remember it being quiet with the possible exception of areas immediately around Starbucks, Classic Cup (maybe), and the Lattelands. Otherwise just a few dog walkers.

Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 4:32 pm
by moderne
Need a re-do of the classic diner Putsh's Coffee House. Always busy in the mornings, there was also a Sidny's, later Places that served breakfast.

Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:54 am
by msmith011
Levi's submitted a tenant finish/remodel application for 441 Nichols Rd. It looks like the former PINK location.

Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:27 pm
by Highlander
msmith011 wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:54 am Levi's submitted a tenant finish/remodel application for 441 Nichols Rd. It looks like the former PINK location.
I hope it's a large store. That entire corner is looking a little forlorn these days

Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:06 pm
by normalthings
Highlander wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:27 pm
msmith011 wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:54 am Levi's submitted a tenant finish/remodel application for 441 Nichols Rd. It looks like the former PINK location.
I hope it's a large store. That entire corner is looking a little forlorn these days
Started visiting Levi's after it was rumored here. They generally are pretty open/welcoming street fronts. Lots of natural light and windows.

Zara could also be nice for the Plaza but seeing there is no St. Louis location maybe it isn't possible.