4th major study since 2019/2020. Lets actually advance somethingtrexel94 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:54 pm RideKC and MARC want a study done for transit to KCI
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/ka ... or-new-kci
We have a free bus to the airport now but it's not advertised and it's not timed for decent transfers.trexel94 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:54 pm RideKC and MARC want a study done for transit to KCI
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/ka ... or-new-kci
There’s also no signage at the airport. I decided to take the bus home for the hell of it Sunday.dnweava wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:57 pmWe have a free bus to the airport now but it's not advertised and it's not timed for decent transfers.trexel94 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:54 pm RideKC and MARC want a study done for transit to KCI
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/ka ... or-new-kci
I literally looked this morning at how long it would take somebody to get to the airport from N.Oak at Barry Rd at it was going to take like 1h 40m with over 1/2 hour layover at the boardwalk transfer station. WTF.... 100 minutes to go 6 miles.
Yes, this will be much improved even if the service doesn't improve in the near term. The old terminal layout was okay for transit, but having 2-3 of them was not. Aviation Dept insisted that bus layover occur at C instead of B where most of the passengers were.
Behind the scenes jockeying -- not on what gets funded, but how funding might work and when to formally gauge public support for something (polling). Elected officials and the public will weigh in publicly once there is some consensus about what goes on the ballot and when, then what we'd be paying for. KCRTA is not advocating for building anything specific, other than it be based on SmartMoves and meaningfully address access to jobs (upgrading a frequent bus route to a frequent streetcar does not do that, for example, you must also add bus service throughout each county).
UL is currently working some other things, although there are contacts around the metro with major stakeholders and individuals who can push for something like this, but it’s all about timing.
My response: https://twitter.com/kclightrail/status/ ... 5664275456kcjak wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:45 am https://cityscenekc.com/city-manager-se ... rport-too/
Interesting comments from the city manager about extending rail from downtown to KCI onward to St. Joseph and Omaha.
I found some very old studies with rough rough rough cost estimates for building freight rail to KCI. $15-20 million in 1990s numbers. All proposed routings came into KCI from the west and stopped before the western runway.DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:09 pmMy response: https://twitter.com/kclightrail/status/ ... 5664275456kcjak wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:45 am https://cityscenekc.com/city-manager-se ... rport-too/
Interesting comments from the city manager about extending rail from downtown to KCI onward to St. Joseph and Omaha.
We're quietly working on this now. It's definitely on the horizon. Here's how I would rank the progress (as determined by current county leadership, existing county investments in transit, and non-elected stakeholder support for action):GRID wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:41 pm DaveKCMO. It's almost 2024 now and a bistate tax to regionally fund transit is still nowhere on the horizon. I mean this has been "talked about" for decades and decades.
The KC area can't even get county wide funding which is how most metropolitan transit systems are funded. Jackson, Clay and Plate all should pass a county wide tax for transit and those that pass it get transit improvements. That is step one. Then you can start combining the counties.
Is this a threat thrown at Frank White and any power his son might have at ATA?bspecht wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:14 pm Mayor introduced an ordinance today after docket, will be 240401...
"Directing the City Manager to review the City's relationship with MARC, and to explore the creation of a new and independent Metropolitan Planning Organization for the purpose of overseeing the regional transportation planning and allocation of federal transportation funds within the boundaries of Kansas City"
240402 also directs the CM to coordinate with MARC & KCATA on regional transportation... Neither posted yet.
240402 (sponsored by Patterson-Hazley): https://clerk.kcmo.gov/LegislationDetai ... %7CText%7CDirecting the City Manager to review the City’s relationship with the Mid-America Regional Council (MARC) and to explore the creation of a new and independent Kansas City Metropolitan Planning Organization (KCMO-MPO) for the purpose of overseeing the regional transportation planning and allocation of federal transportation funds within the boundaries of Kansas City.
WHEREAS, Kansas City is a major urban center with unique transportation planning needs that are distinct from the broader bi-state Kansas City metropolitan area; and
WHEREAS, the existing Mid-America Regional Council (MARC) serves a broad geographic area that includes multiple counties in both Missouri and Kansas, which may dilute the focus on Kansas City’s specific transportation issues and opportunities; and
WHEREAS, federal regulations under the United States Department of Transportation mandate the establishment of Metropolitan Planning Organizations (MPOs) for urbanized areas with populations over 50,000 to ensure effective local input in the allocation of federal transportation funds; and
WHEREAS, local support of transportation planning and prioritization of projects within Kansas City is essential to meet the immediate and future needs of the City’s residents and businesses, particularly in our urban core, and to ensure that City priorities-like reconnecting communities and mitigating harmful effects of major thoroughfares like Highway 71-are prioritized and implemented; and
WHEREAS, the addition of a Kansas City-specific Metropolitan Planning Organization (KCMO-MPO) would enhance the ability to undertake comprehensive, cooperative, and continuing transportation planning and implementation tailored to the City’s needs; NOW THEREFORE
BE IT ORDAINED BY THE COUNCIL OF KANSAS CITY:
Section 1. The City Manager is directed to review the City’s relationship with MARC at the beginning of the next fiscal year, FY 2025-26.
Section 2. The City Manager is directed to explore the addition of a new, independent MPO serving and overseen by Kansas City (“KCMO-MPO”). The City Manager is directed to outline the geographical area of a potential KCMO-MPO, design governance and funding structures, and evaluate the process for securing necessary State and Federal approvals.
RESOLUTION - Directing the City Manager to work in collaboration with the Kansas City Area Transportation Authority (“KCATA”) and the Mid-America Regional Council (“MARC”) to determine best practices for regional transit; and directing the City Manager to determine the costs of implementing an updated regional transit plan that meets the current needs and to report back to Council within 30 days.
WHEREAS, community members have expressed the need for expanded and more frequent bus service; and
WHEREAS, the City Council did not include budget increases in its annual budget as requested by Kansas City community members.
WHEREAS, it is the desire of this City Council to improve transit service and address budget shortfalls.
BE IT RESOLVED BY THE COUNCIL OF KANSAS CITY:
Section 1. That the City Manager is directed to collaborate with the KCATA and MARC to determine best practices for regional transit.
Section 2. That the City Manager is directed to determine the costs of implementing an updated regional transit plan that meets the needs of today to include an investigation of how other Cities fund regional transit and address budget shortfalls, investigate how the City’s Public Mass Transit Tax may be reallocated to support regional transit, and investigate how other Cities supplement and fund regional transit service with municipal transit programming and to report back to Council within 30 days.
