OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Post by rxlexi » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:30 am

If those are precast, look at the panels on the PAC to get a sense of how they may age.
To my eye, the panels on the PAC look like a much more accurate facsimile of limestone.

I wish the panels on the hotel looked like those.

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Post by moderne » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:13 pm

From a distance the panels do not seem quite so yellow. Up close its like some sort of fast food franchise. I think a few years of weathering and pollution patina may soften them. The sides of the KCPA are already discolored and stained and it has not even been a decade yet.
I just cannot believe the color is what the architects truly intended. Like maybe the manufacturer made a big mistake with the tinting mixture. So many other projects did a great job of matching the synthetic(cheaper) cladding to natural limestone(the KCPA, the Whitaker Courthouse). Not so the Federal Reserve as it is actual limestone.

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Post by rxlexi » Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:24 pm

So many other projects did a great job of matching the synthetic(cheaper) cladding to natural limestone(the KCPA, the Whitaker Courthouse). Not so the Federal Reserve as it is actual limestone.
Exactly.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Post by KCtoBrooklyn » Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:48 am

The view of the Loews at night from the P&L Building.

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Post by missingkc » Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:07 pm

New Children's Mercy building makes a nice showing, too. Adds a lot of weight to CC skyline.

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Post by normalthings » Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:10 pm

KCtoBrooklyn wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:48 am
The view of the Loews at night from the P&L Building.

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From Liberty Memorial, Loews looks to be the same height and massing as the Vista - Marriot Tower.

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Post by normalthings » Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:53 am

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This rendering shows what that metal framing will look like once complete.

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Post by GRID » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:10 pm

It's so yellow.

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Post by flyingember » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:12 pm

GRID wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:10 pm
It's so yellow.
It's a bad camera exposure, it's not really that yellow, it's more of a tan
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Post by GRID » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:13 pm

flyingember wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:12 pm
GRID wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:10 pm
It's so yellow.
It's a bad camera exposure, it's not really that yellow
Cool, I was wondering if that was just the photo or if it looks different in real life.

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Post by GRID » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:17 pm

The new hotel will really help the ballroom tie into downtown. I have always liked those huge grey columns along the entrance to the ballroom, but they always faced nothing. Now that part of the convention center opens up toward the hotel complex. The grey paneling in the hotel also ties in nicely with the convention center and ballroom.

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Post by kboish » Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:25 pm

Loews set to open April 2, 2020. Just missing Big 12 tourney (but still ahead of schedule).

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... ml?ana=twt

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Post by TheLastGentleman » Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:44 pm

GRID wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:13 pm
flyingember wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:12 pm
GRID wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:10 pm
It's so yellow.
It's a bad camera exposure, it's not really that yellow
Cool, I was wondering if that was just the photo or if it looks different in real life.
I think this shot represents better what it looks like in real life. It's pretty light, but definitely not yellow. Not sure what happened with that other photo.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Post by chaglang » Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:06 am

rxlexi wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:30 am
If those are precast, look at the panels on the PAC to get a sense of how they may age.
To my eye, the panels on the PAC look like a much more accurate facsimile of limestone.

I wish the panels on the hotel looked like those.
Right. That was more about how the panels will stain or discolor over time.

And... thank you for the compliment on the PAC panel color. :D Years ago, a couple of us walked all over downtown with large (and heavy) precast samples and held them up to various limestone buildings to get the color and tone right (or at least narrow the options and send them to Safdie). I suspect the architects of the hotel did something similar. You have to get a bit lucky because the time of day and time of year changes a lot about how the colors look. At the time I thought the PAC color might have been too orange over such a large facade. I'm glad it worked out, but I do think the color has lightened over time, and some staining has muted the color underneath.

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Post by rxlexi » Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:08 am

And... thank you for the compliment on the PAC panel color. :D Years ago, a couple of us walked all over downtown with large (and heavy) precast samples and held them up to various limestone buildings to get the color and tone right (or at least narrow the options and send them to Safdie). I suspect the architects of the hotel did something similar. You have to get a bit lucky because the time of day and time of year changes a lot about how the colors look. At the time I thought the PAC color might have been too orange over such a large facade. I'm glad it worked out, but I do think the color has lightened over time, and some staining has muted the color underneath.
Very cool. You're welcome, and thanks for this interesting background on the design process! I'd love to see more use of limestone or limestone-look materials in downtown new construction. Kind of a signature material for the region, from the river bluffs, to the deco towers downtown, to the stone walls and shirtwaists in midtown. Still a very attractive, solid and timeless look when done right.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Post by GRID » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:13 pm

TheLastGentleman wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:44 pm
GRID wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:13 pm
flyingember wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:12 pm


It's a bad camera exposure, it's not really that yellow
Cool, I was wondering if that was just the photo or if it looks different in real life.
I think this shot represents better what it looks like in real life. It's pretty light, but definitely not yellow. Not sure what happened with that other photo.

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That looks pretty good. The glass is really nice and contrasting.

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Post by Chris Stritzel » Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:30 am

These are from today. The second image nearly matches a rendering.

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Post by missingkc » Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:23 am

Thank you, Chris, for all the photos.

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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Post by shinatoo » Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:56 am

I like it.
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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Post by grecobs » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:07 am

This building is so ugly.

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