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GRID wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:57 pm Impressed by the south end of the Streetcar line. That stretch from about 44th to UMKC was very well thought out and will be really nice.

I'm a bit confused by the part from Pershing to 27th. That multipurpose lane is very wide. I guess I need to see it with pavement markings. I hope it's marked with bike and walking or something because the sidewalks on both sides of main are full of poles.

It seems like those sidewalks could have been done differently since they had a chance to redo all that and get the poles out of the sidewalks.

DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 4:00 pm

GRID wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:57 pm Impressed by the south end of the Streetcar line. That stretch from about 44th to UMKC was very well thought out and will be really nice.

I'm a bit confused by the part from Pershing to 27th. That multipurpose lane is very wide. I guess I need to see it with pavement markings. I hope it's marked with bike and walking or something because the sidewalks on both sides of main are full of poles.

It seems like those sidewalks could have been done differently since they had a chance to redo all that and get the poles out of the sidewalks.

This is the most "light rail" section. Too bad no one wanted center-running. You'd be even more impressed north of 44th!

GRID wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 4:38 pm

DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 4:00 pm

GRID wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:57 pm Impressed by the south end of the Streetcar line. That stretch from about 44th to UMKC was very well thought out and will be really nice.

I'm a bit confused by the part from Pershing to 27th. That multipurpose lane is very wide. I guess I need to see it with pavement markings. I hope it's marked with bike and walking or something because the sidewalks on both sides of main are full of poles.

It seems like those sidewalks could have been done differently since they had a chance to redo all that and get the poles out of the sidewalks.

This is the most "light rail" section. Too bad no one wanted center-running. You'd be even more impressed north of 44th!

Yeah, was not impressed with that part lol. Especially all the parking spaces the trams go around. Center running the entire way would have been amazing, but that ship has sailed. I'm just glad they did that south end like that. It's basically light rail ready, even the platforms are longer.

langosta wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:22 pm Lightrail ready to run down to Waldo!

beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:38 pm

langosta wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:22 pm Lightrail ready to run down to Waldo!

The suburbs don't get the streetcar.

langosta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2023 2:44 pm

beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:38 pm

langosta wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:22 pm Lightrail ready to run down to Waldo!

The suburbs don't get the streetcar.

Streetcar suburbs should get the streetcar.

beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:19 pm

langosta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2023 2:44 pm

beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:38 pm
The suburbs don't get the streetcar.

Streetcar suburbs should get the streetcar.

In all seriousness, I know so many people who live in Waldo who say, "I can't wait until the streetcar is extended to Waldo!"

langosta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:28 pm
This is my experience as well. Most I know lived in downtown, wanted more space one they started families, and movedto Brookside/Waldo.

Brookside/Waldo, Independence BLVD, Linwood BLVD are all commercial and residential corridors that should have rapid rail access to the Plaza-Westport-Downtown commercial core.

beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:35 pm

langosta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:28 pm
This is my experience as well. Most I know lived in downtown, wanted more spaceone they started families, and movedto Brookside/Waldo.

Brookside/Waldo, Independence BLVD, Linwood BLVD are all commercial and residential corridors that should have rapid rail access to the Plaza-Westport-Downtown commercial core.

This is why Waldo can't have streetcar right now. This "space" kills density and makes streetcar financially untenable. There are plenty of neighborhoods in the core that are very affordable, especially east of Troost, that allow for larger families. It's time to build up the core first.

beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 5:22 pm They are humming right along laying track. Northbound between Armour and 39th looks ready to pour any day. Here is what looks to be left:

Linwood intersection N&S
40th to 39th- N (S looks ready to pour)
41st to UMKC- N
45th to Cleaver- S

What’d I miss?

Chris Stritzel wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 5:48 pm Pershing Crossing
Northbound connection from the new stop at Pershing and Main

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:40 pm That connection to current northbound route seems like it will have to shut down current streetcar service for a week?

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:40 pm That connection to current northbound route seems like it will have to shut down current streetcar service for a week?

beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:07 pm

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:40 pm That connection to current northbound route seems like it will have to shut down current streetcar service for a week?

Always wondered why they didn’t put a couple of “jump out” curves in the line where they could switch to running both north and south on the same line in case of issue on one side. Would require trains going towards each other to “weave” around each other at these curves but better than full shutdown.

langosta wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:13 pm the Pershing and Westport switches were designed for just this on the MSE. To allow for continued operations during a crash/incident OR to allow for special routings. One official example given was a downtown circular could be run in the future during a major event.