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Karambit25 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:12 pm Embarrassing. The legacy of this team ended today. Yes a nice run but not a great or "dynasty" team that many hoped it would be. 3 of the greatest players at their positions was magical.

This is pretty much true, unfortunately. When you have this much talent on a team, winning 1 ring is a low bar.

2 rings would've been fitting. They were capable of 3-4 though going back since Mahomes rookie season. 1 means you fell short.

The Star for once had an insightful headline that said the Chiefs had fooled us all into thinking this wouldn't happen any more lol

AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:56 am

Karambit25 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:12 pm Embarrassing. The legacy of this team ended today. Yes a nice run but not a great or "dynasty" team that many hoped it would be. 3 of the greatest players at their positions was magical.

This is pretty much true, unfortunately. When you have this much talent on a team, winning 1 ring is a low bar.

2 rings would've been fitting. They were capable of 3-4 though going back since Mahomes rookie season. 1 means you fell short.

Yeah, kind of like when Tom Brady blew a 21-6 halftime lead over the Colts in the 2006 AFC Championship. Of course, he just faded in obscurity. Wonder where he is now?

shinatoo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:13 am

AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:56 am

Karambit25 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:12 pm Embarrassing. The legacy of this team ended today. Yes a nice run but not a great or "dynasty" team that many hoped it would be. 3 of the greatest players at their positions was magical.

This is pretty much true, unfortunately. When you have this much talent on a team, winning 1 ring is a low bar.

2 rings would've been fitting. They were capable of 3-4 though going back since Mahomes rookie season. 1 means you fell short.

Yeah, kind of like when Tom Brady blew a 21-6 halftime lead over the Colts in the 2006 AFC Championship. Of course, he just faded in obscurity. Wonder where he is now?

Tom Brady had already won 3 Super Bowls at that point. Mahomes has won 1.

Tom Brady won the Super Bowl in 2002, 2004 and 2005. It was 10 years before he won another one.

He then won 2015, 2017, 2019 with the Patriots.

If Mahomes has 1/3 of that success, I'll be happy. But let's give him more time.

Why do we think the Chiefs are all of a sudden going to start sucking?

shaffe wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 2:30 pm Why do we think the Chiefs are all of a sudden going to start sucking?

I assume some people are panicking because we've never seen the Chiefs be a dynasty before.

It's a small sample size, but the Chiefs have technically gotten worse year after year for the last 3 seasons:

Win Super Bowl
Lose Super Bowl
Lose AFC Championship

A loss in the divisional round next year will really send people over the edge. WE'RE GOING BACKWARDS!!!

Andy Reid may be a great coach Monday through Friday, but on gameday he's a liability. Week after week the Chiefs build a comfortable lead and then completely stop scoring points. The only way we managed to win a Super Bowl was to fall behind in every single game. People overlook a lot of stuff because more often than not the Chiefs find a way to win games in the end, but Reid's playcalling is consistently dubious. It's just that now he has a QB who can bail him out of trouble more often than before.

AllThingsKC wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:08 pm Tom Brady won the Super Bowl in 2002, 2004 and 2005. It was 10 years before he won another one.

He then won 2015, 2017, 2019 with the Patriots.

If Mahomes has 1/3 of that success, I'll be happy. But let's give him more time.

So, 2 Super Bowl wins you'd be satisfied with?

That means if for the entire next 18 years of Mahomes career you'd be happy if he only wins one more Super Bowl.

That would be a colossal failure and underperformance if that's the case.

AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:37 pm So, 2 Super Bowl wins you'd be satisfied with?

Yes. The Chiefs went 50 years without winning a Super Bowl. I will happily take winning 2 in 20 years.

Would winning 2 in 20 years be ideal for the talent of Mahomes? No. But it would be more than Aaron Rodgers (currently) and most fans bases would love to win a Super Bowl once a decade.

^That's still underperforming.

kas1 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:26 pm The only way we managed to win a Super Bowl was to fall behind in every single game.

This take is honestly true

AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:41 pm ^That's still underperforming.

By what standard?

AllThingsKC wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:11 am

AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:41 pm ^That's still underperforming.

By what standard?

By the standard that you have maybe the best QB ever. With a great coach and supporting staff. Mahomes has broken every passing record up to his age by ALOT at this point.

By what standard is Mahomes "maybe the best QB ever"?

Mahomes seems to be following a career path of Russel Wilson. Dynasty type team that only won a single super bowl, after dynasty team they just kind of fizzle out and don't do much after but are still solid.

brewcrew1000 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:41 pm Mahomes seems to be following a career path of Russel Wilson. Dynasty type team that only won a single super bowl, after dynasty team they just kind of fizzle out and don't do much after but are still solid.

LOL, one overtime away from third straight Super Bowl. Fizzle!

I can't read this thread without my head wanting to explode. There is nothing to worry about here. Just calm down.

mean wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:20 pm I can't read this thread without my head wanting to explode. There is nothing to worry about here. Just calm down.

The thing is though that the AFC has gotten way better. In 2018 it was basically just Mahomes and Brady. Josh Allen was not a thing, Burrow and Herbert were still in college, Lamar Jackson and Mayfield are still decent and can compete. The jury is still out on Mac Jones, Trevor Lawrence and Tua and u still have Watson in the AFC. The AFC is absolutely loaded at QB for a long long time. The NFC future at QB is Dak and Kyler Murray. If KC was in the NFC I would calm down but the AFC is scary stacked

The Chiefs aren't going to get to the super bowl, on a regular basis, in the new AFC without a better defense, no matter how good Maholmes is.

And mean, hopefully you know I was LOLing at the people that say the Chiefs have fizzled.