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Stadiums need to be reserved for locations where they won’t damage the grid. Places like washington park or Berkley that are sprawling enough to handle a structure like that
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AlkaliAxel wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:42 pm It’s so annoying when people’s first instinct to any downtown sports is “oNe hOmE gAmE a yEaR” before thinking beyond just ticket sales
It’s a practical stance to have..? A large area with little to no activity for a majority of the year in the heart of a downtown area hardly drives any meaningful development or pedestrian engagement.
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earthling wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:55 pm ^Which is why downtown stadiums shouldn't be built as standalone islands. Build something such as hirise residential fused into it, the view of field is a unique amenity. Surround it with sports pubs and related interests at streetlevel. Essentially target a mixed use project that happens to have a stadium fused into it.
Agreed, butt it's a fight to keep massive garages and even surface lots out.

Anyone go walk around Sprint center and see how active it is on an off day. Still surface lots.
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^Would be expensive but two level garage underneath field and/or also depend on existing parking around rest of downtown/midtown (even to Plaza) via streetcar. If streetcar can't take it, run extra overflow buses along line during events.
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earthling wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:10 pm ^Would be expensive but two level garage underneath field and/or also depend on existing parking around rest of downtown/midtown (even to Plaza) via streetcar. If streetcar can't take it, run extra overflow buses along line during events.
If you are okay removing all of the park, you can fit a soccer stadium and 2,000 space garage on site. There is roughly the same if not more existing parking around WSP within the current CMH Parking walkshed
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You're not going to put a public parking garage under a major stadium for safety reasons, never mind the cost.

Post 9-11, city hall/public safety is bound to raise concerns with that.
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horizons82 wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:07 pm You're not going to put a public parking garage under a major stadium for safety reasons, never mind the cost.

Post 9-11, city hall/public safety is bound to raise concerns with that.
Don’t really need parking underneath. Build another big garage at US and walk through the grand hall to the stadium. Still have lots of hotel garages and CC shops, streetcar. Drop the parking requirement altogether.
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I think you could do sporting without parking. They aren't worried about the revenue. They'd easily fill up a bigger stadium and take transit.

Plus they'd probably want to do at least a bar or two on sight. Club level stuff for corporate events, Depending on how they build it they could host football games too.
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Sporting KC is not moving. But keep dreaming.
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beautyfromashes wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:10 pm
horizons82 wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:07 pm You're not going to put a public parking garage under a major stadium for safety reasons, never mind the cost.

Post 9-11, city hall/public safety is bound to raise concerns with that.
Don’t really need parking underneath. Build another big garage at US and walk through the grand hall to the stadium. Still have lots of hotel garages and CC shops, streetcar. Drop the parking requirement altogether.
you can fit a garage and a stadium on the site without one being over or under the other
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aknowledgeableperson wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:23 pm Sporting KC is not moving. But keep dreaming.
Weren’t you the one that told me there was no way KC would get World Cup games too?
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aknowledgeableperson wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:23 pm Sporting KC is not moving. But keep dreaming.
In due time, wrong.
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aknowledgeableperson wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:23 pm Sporting KC is not moving. But keep dreaming.
Wrong.
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aknowledgeableperson wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:23 pm Sporting KC is not moving. But keep dreaming.
Wait for it!!....
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Where would you guys wanna put a downtown Sporting stadium at?
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19th Street between Forest and Grove.
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beautyfromashes wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:18 pm
aknowledgeableperson wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:23 pm Sporting KC is not moving. But keep dreaming.
Weren’t you the one that told me there was no way KC would get World Cup games too?
Has KC been awarded any games at this time?
https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2021/08/01 ... -stadiums/
"Missing out
12. Kansas City (Arrowhead Stadium)
13. Houston (NRG Stadium)
14. Nashville (Nissan Stadium)
15. Orlando (Camping World Stadium)
16. Baltimore (M&T Bank Stadium)
17. Cincinnati (Paul Brown Stadium)"

Of course other articles, or speculators, have KC getting some games but IMO KC is a long shot.
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Sounds like the Sporting and Cerner incentive package expires in 5 years.
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normalthings wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:22 pm Sounds like the Sporting and Cerner incentive package expires in 5 years.
Does that mean they can move stadiums?
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AlkaliAxel wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:22 pm
normalthings wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:22 pm Sounds like the Sporting and Cerner incentive package expires in 5 years.
Does that mean they can move stadiums?
Cerner incentive package expires in 2026 ( 5 years). Sporting KC is now on the hook to pay that. Any new tenants that come in will count towards the payroll requirement.

Wyandotte UG has leased parking for Children’s Mercy Park through 2031. Those lease payments are around $350,000 per year. Soccer bonds mature in 2034/2035. However, per KC Star,
The $144 million in STAR bonds awarded to help build the soccer stadium was not only fully repaid, but repaid years ahead of schedule as sales tax collections topped expectations in the Village West area.
WSJ indicates that total project cost was around $165. I assume they have paid that $20million off already.

So SKC may have no serious roadblocks to a downtown stadium left.
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