Re: Cosentino's Grocery downtown
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:25 pm
Oh good, I will totally take them seriously now that my instacart order is at risk.
I mean, there is and has been a direct correlation...normalthings wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:42 pmPacking a closed space like sardines is a great way to make people continue to blame them for corona round 2.
I passed by the business today it seemed fine. If they did mess stuff up though I’m not condoning it at all.
I thought the crime rate is up 40-50% since Lucas took office. Otherwise we where doing pretty well before.Riverite wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:38 pmI passed by the business today it seemed fine. If they did mess stuff up though I’m not condoning it at all.
Just because you don’t pay attention doesn’t mean people don’t care about our homicide rate. There are groups that try to combat that very thing. It’s also disingenuous because if a citizen kills another citizen they are arrested. A lot of people’s issue is the double standard for cops and qualified immunity.
One of their main points that the group which organized the protest laid out is that since 2012 our police budget has risen 28% and our violent crime rate has risen 49%. Their very point is that putting more cops on the ground doesn’t work.
People are also terrified because unidentifiable federal troops have been picking up protestors in Portland Oregon and throwing them into either unmarked vehicles or enterprise vans.
Furthermore what about white on white crime, do you protest when there is white on white crime? Do you feel responsible to speak out when a white person shoots up a movie theater or school? This is assuming you are white. If not, I would try to see that most homicides of a race happen with members of their own race
Nope homicides have continuously gone up since 2014 with a small dip in 2018. Violent crime has gone up every single year except for a small dip in 2018. As our city is getting wealthier and we are increasing the police budget it is also getting more violent.normalthings wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:42 pmI thought the crime rate is up 40-50% since Lucas took office. Otherwise we where doing pretty well before.Riverite wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:38 pmI passed by the business today it seemed fine. If they did mess stuff up though I’m not condoning it at all.
Just because you don’t pay attention doesn’t mean people don’t care about our homicide rate. There are groups that try to combat that very thing. It’s also disingenuous because if a citizen kills another citizen they are arrested. A lot of people’s issue is the double standard for cops and qualified immunity.
One of their main points that the group which organized the protest laid out is that since 2012 our police budget has risen 28% and our violent crime rate has risen 49%. Their very point is that putting more cops on the ground doesn’t work.
People are also terrified because unidentifiable federal troops have been picking up protestors in Portland Oregon and throwing them into either unmarked vehicles or enterprise vans.
Furthermore what about white on white crime, do you protest when there is white on white crime? Do you feel responsible to speak out when a white person shoots up a movie theater or school? This is assuming you are white. If not, I would try to see that most homicides of a race happen with members of their own race
I don’t think they should be able to disrupt a grocery store, and or be destructive, but pretending like this country isn’t selectively blind towards disruption we like would be disingenuous. We praise the Boston tea party which dumped the East india company’s tea, not the British governments. The British East India company was the largest company of their day so think of it like a Walmart or an amazonearthling wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:48 pm Doesn't matter what the cause is. If a protester disrupts the flow of society they are fair game to be removed or at least moved to no longer disrupt. There are improper ways to address but it doesn't give free reign to disrupt with no consequences. Obviously a protest is no longer peaceful if it's disruptive - and they only damage their cause.
The feds in town are investigators, not troops. Big difference and they're here to try and arrest/solve all of the murders. I'm not sure why white on white crime was brought up, because that's not a factor in regards to this cities homicide problem. Of course white on white crime exists and is a big issue. Yes, there are groups out there trying to stop the black on black crime but much like the police, it's not working. We could triple the amount of police in KC and it's not going to slow the homicide rate. The issue within the African American community is far too complicated. I do think it would be helpful if more people were as passionate about stopping black on black crime as they are about the statistically tiny percentage of cops shooting unarmed black men.Riverite wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:38 pmI passed by the business today it seemed fine. If they did mess stuff up though I’m not condoning it at all.
Just because you don’t pay attention doesn’t mean people don’t care about our homicide rate. There are groups that try to combat that very thing. It’s also disingenuous because if a citizen kills another citizen they are arrested. A lot of people’s issue is the double standard for cops and qualified immunity.
One of their main points that the group which organized the protest laid out is that since 2012 our police budget has risen 28% and our violent crime rate has risen 49%. Their very point is that putting more cops on the ground doesn’t work.
People are also terrified because unidentifiable federal troops have been picking up protestors in Portland Oregon and throwing them into either unmarked vehicles or enterprise vans.
Furthermore what about white on white crime, do you protest when there is white on white crime? Do you feel responsible to speak out when a white person shoots up a movie theater or school? This is assuming you are white. If not, I would try to see that most homicides of a race happen with members of their own race
We live in a federal system, by putting troops unasked in a state trump is ignoring the constitution. Also when has Antifa killed anyone? Whereas dozens of people have died in recent years from white nationalists. Are you saying no one should be able to be armed in public, since guns are more dangerous than bats I assume you mean guns should be banned too, or at least any group using with them in public.DColeKC wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:30 pmThe feds in town are investigators, not troops. Big difference and they're here to try and arrest/solve all of the murders. I'm not sure why white on white crime was brought up, because that's not a factor in regards to this cities homicide problem. Of course white on white crime exists and is a big issue. Yes, there are groups out there trying to stop the black on black crime but much like the police, it's not working. We could triple the amount of police in KC and it's not going to slow the homicide rate. The issue within the African American community is far too complicated. I do think it would be helpful if more people were as passionate about stopping black on black crime as they are about the statistically tiny percentage of cops shooting unarmed black men.Riverite wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:38 pmI passed by the business today it seemed fine. If they did mess stuff up though I’m not condoning it at all.
Just because you don’t pay attention doesn’t mean people don’t care about our homicide rate. There are groups that try to combat that very thing. It’s also disingenuous because if a citizen kills another citizen they are arrested. A lot of people’s issue is the double standard for cops and qualified immunity.
One of their main points that the group which organized the protest laid out is that since 2012 our police budget has risen 28% and our violent crime rate has risen 49%. Their very point is that putting more cops on the ground doesn’t work.
People are also terrified because unidentifiable federal troops have been picking up protestors in Portland Oregon and throwing them into either unmarked vehicles or enterprise vans.
Furthermore what about white on white crime, do you protest when there is white on white crime? Do you feel responsible to speak out when a white person shoots up a movie theater or school? This is assuming you are white. If not, I would try to see that most homicides of a race happen with members of their own race
Also, Portland is a shit show. Maybe they should double the amount of troops. Also, can we ban Antifa yet? Such a garbage group with their bats and combat gear. As the protestors spray painted the stage in KC live yesterday, there were a handful of "enforcers" with weapons strapped to them.
Agreed. The hypocrisy is real.
They have GOV white and blue plates. That's how the federal government works. If you don't want to end up in the back of a federal government, blue colored, blue and white GSA tagged vehicle, then don't do something that will get you arrested and thrown in. Sorry, not sorry.
I didn’t know the federal government had the authority to do that, also what federal laws are they breaking?im2kull wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:13 pmAgreed. The hypocrisy is real.
They have GOV white and blue plates. That's how the federal government works. If you don't want to end up in the back of a federal government, blue colored, blue and white GSA tagged vehicle, then don't do something that will get you arrested and thrown in. Sorry, not sorry.
That’s not a federal crime, why are federal troops doing that? Where they invited by the state?