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Cosentino's Grocery downtown
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:14 am
by ComandanteCero
cool!
http://www.kansascity.com/business/story/791451.html
Cosentino’s Market Downtown to open Nov. 1
By JOYCE SMITH
The Kansas City Star
Downtown residents and workers have long clamored for a supermarket.
Perhaps the wait was worth it.
The new Cosentino’s Market Downtown, scheduled to open Nov. 1 in the Kansas City Power & Light District, will not only offer the everyday bread-and-milk basics, it will give customers several restaurant-type options including an 80-foot salad and olive bar, sushi bar, pizza from a wood-burning oven, a 1,500-bottle wine selection, deli, sandwich station with paninis and gyros, hot pasta bar, bakery with more than 40 different artisan breads and seating for more than 100.
Re: P&L District: 12th & Main Site Proposal
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:37 am
by KCPowercat
This grocery store seems like it will be programmed perfectly for workers and loft dwellers alike.
I can't wait for it to open. When someone from the suburbs tells me where they live I am going to ask where they get their groceries and gasp how far they have to DRIVE to get there
Re: P&L District: 12th & Main Site Proposal
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:57 am
by AllThingsKC
Urbanism = Awesome.
Re: P&L District: 12th & Main Site Proposal
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:54 am
by Midtownkid
God some of those comments are so awful (on the story's message board). KC has some big retards in it for sure...'but where will we park' 'it will be too expensive' 'people in lofts downtown all have bad haircuts'. Makes me never want to move back
Re: P&L District: 12th & Main Site Proposal
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:47 am
by GRID
The comments are horrible on that website. I refuse to read them now, but the star needs to remove that. I think there is handful of people (MD might be one of them) that post incredibly bad comments on nearly every article.
It makes KC look bad. Real bad. Every time I spend some time reading those comments, it makes me want to move away from KC and not think twice about it.
Re: P&L District: 12th & Main Site Proposal
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:56 am
by Midtownkid
Yeah, they really do make KC look bad. I know every city must have people like that...but I don't read other cities message boards. KC sometimes seems so stale. But the strong arts community in KC is what makes me want to come back. It's so good there...DC has a really really weak arts community. (Gov city, not creative city)
Re: P&L District: 12th & Main Site Proposal
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:59 am
by chrizow
newsflash: every city's newspaper that lets users anonymously comment on articles elicits ridiculous, racist comments. it's not a kc thing, which at first is comforting, then more outrageous than before.
Re: P&L District: 12th & Main Site Proposal
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:00 am
by shaffe
I do have some concerns about the cost. Right now my fiancee and I drive to Wal-Mart on Barry Road (go ahead and shame me now) because it simply is that much cheaper and convenient for us. We're on a really tight budget and hopefully the savings on gas will make it affordable for us to shop at Cosentino's. The litmus test for me is the price of milk, hopefully Cosentino's can keep it under $4.
Re: P&L District: 12th & Main Site Proposal
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:18 am
by voltopt
chrizow wrote:
newsflash: every city's newspaper that lets users anonymously comment on articles elicits ridiculous, racist comments. it's not a kc thing, which at first is comforting, then more outrageous than before.
This is true for every city, every organization, everywhere, that allows anonymous posting of comments.
It absolutely is not a kc thing.
Re: P&L District: 12th & Main Site Proposal
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:20 am
by NDTeve
That place sounds amazing. I also like the "plazma dinners" phrase. I wish the Brookside Market was more of a "meal to go" as this sounds like it will be. Perfect fit for DT.
Re: P&L District: 12th & Main Site Proposal
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:37 am
by Midtownkid
Anyone reading the 'debate' between sabbuttrue and UrbanKC? That guy (SBT) is such a tool.
Re: P&L District: 12th & Main Site Proposal
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:41 am
by KCPowercat
The only worry I have is too much grab and go, but I am sure that's an unfounded fear.
Re: P&L District: 12th & Main Site Proposal
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:43 am
by chrizow
KCPowercat wrote:
The only worry I have is too much grab and go, but I am sure that's an unfounded fear.
the store will be 33,000 square feet - probably not a problem. brookside market is 25,000 square feet.
Re: P&L District: 12th & Main Site Proposal
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:46 am
by PumpkinStalker
chrizow wrote:
the store will be 33,000 square feet - probably not a problem. brookside market is 25,000 square feet.
How does this compare in sq ftg for other suburban grocery stores? Hy-Vee's etc.... Were those figures in an article Chriz or can you find them for other stores?
Re: P&L District: 12th & Main Site Proposal
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:53 am
by chrizow
PumpkinStalker wrote:
How does this compare in sq ftg for other suburban grocery stores? Hy-Vee's etc.... Were those figures in an article Chriz or can you find them for other stores?
well, if Brookside Market is 25,000 sq ft, then i would imagine that a typical outer-suburban Hy-Vee is at least 50,000 sq ft.
Re: P&L District: 12th & Main Site Proposal
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:01 am
by kard
oooh i'm gonna have to get me a little cart to lug my groceries home
Re: P&L District: 12th & Main Site Proposal
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:18 am
by loftguy
shaffe wrote:
I do have some concerns about the cost. Right now my fiancee and I drive to Wal-Mart on Barry Road (go ahead and shame me now) because it simply is that much cheaper and convenient for us. We're on a really tight budget and hopefully the savings on gas will make it affordable for us to shop at Cosentino's. The litmus test for me is the price of milk, hopefully Cosentino's can keep it under $4.
In his presentation yesterday, John Cosentino was asked about product pricing. He responded that the labor costs would be much higher for the dwtn store, with more personnel per sq. ft. and the addition of gourmet chefs to the staff. He said that prepared foods would be more expensive, yet higher quality. He also said that a bottle of Heinz ketchup would cost the same as in their suburban stores.
Re: P&L District: 12th & Main Site Proposal
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:21 am
by KCMax
loftguy wrote:
In his presentation yesterday, John Cosentino was asked about product pricing. He responded that the labor costs would be much higher for the dwtn store, with more personnel per sq. ft. and the addition of gourmet chefs to the staff. He said that prepared foods would be more expensive, yet higher quality. He also said that a bottle of Heinz ketchup would cost the same as in their suburban stores.
Yea, I see their revenues coming from these "value-added" gourmet centers, which are sure to be snapped up by busy workers downtown for lunch and dinner.
Re: P&L District: 12th & Main Site Proposal
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:22 am
by PumpkinStalker
I can pretty much bet that I'll shop here more than any other grocery store in the metro, especially since I'll have a bus pass in the coming month to go to work. I'm very excited about being able to pick up some quality dinner and take home to eat.
Re: P&L District: 12th & Main Site Proposal
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:30 am
by LenexatoKCMO
chrizow wrote:
well, if Brookside Market is 25,000 sq ft, then i would imagine that a typical outer-suburban Hy-Vee is at least 50,000 sq ft.
The Roe PC is nearly 200k but it is one of the largest in the midwest.