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Census data out today for 2006-07. Info below is for Metro/Micropolitan area (i.e. KC metro includes Warrensburg). KC is still steady and looks like the area added over twice as many people as St Louis. Sorry - couldn't get the columns laid out correctly on here.  From census.gov:

Metro/Micro Area 2007 Est 2006 Est
New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA 21,961,994 21,921,274
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA 17,755,322 17,655,550
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI 9,745,165 9,676,941
Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD-VA-WV 8,241,912 8,185,740
Boston-Worcester-Manchester, MA-RI-NH 7,476,689 7,459,311
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA 7,264,887 7,192,771
Dallas-Fort Worth, TX 6,498,410 6,333,329
Philadelphia-Camden-Vineland, PA-NJ-DE-MD 6,385,461 6,363,758
Houston-Baytown-Huntsville, TX 5,729,027 5,608,692
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Gainesville, GA-AL 5,626,400 5,466,224
Detroit-Warren-Flint, MI 5,405,918 5,434,011
Seattle-Tacoma-Olympia, WA 4,038,741 3,984,706
Minneapolis-St. Paul-St. Cloud, MN-WI 3,538,781 3,499,203
Denver-Aurora-Boulder, CO /1 2,998,878 2,933,327
Cleveland-Akron-Elyria, OH 2,896,968 2,906,914
St. Louis-St. Charles-Farmington, MO-IL 2,866,517 2,855,860
Orlando-Deltona-Daytona Beach, FL 2,693,552 2,644,711
Pittsburgh-New Castle, PA 2,446,703 2,454,565
Sacramento--Arden-Arcade--Yuba City, CA-NV 2,397,691 2,365,513
Charlotte-Gastonia-Salisbury, NC-SC 2,277,074 2,198,434
Cincinnati-Middletown-Wilmington, OH-KY-IN 2,176,749 2,163,994
Kansas City-Overland Park-Kansas City, MO-KS 2,053,928 2,030,006
Indianapolis-Anderson-Columbus, IN 2,014,267 1,988,707
Columbus-Marion-Chillicothe, OH 1,982,252 1,961,894
Las Vegas-Paradise-Pahrump, NV 1,880,449 1,819,482
Milwaukee-Racine-Waukesha, WI 1,739,497 1,735,150
Salt Lake City-Ogden-Clearfield, UT 1,686,703 1,648,382
Raleigh-Durham-Cary, NC 1,635,974 1,575,452
Nashville-Davidson--Murfreesboro--Columbia, TN 1,601,403 1,564,245

NPR said this morning that texas had four (?) of the highest growth metros (DFW, houston, austin, and san antonio).

Why are people moving to Charlotte? 

I would assume it's mostly southerners?

trailerkid wrote: Why are people moving to Charlotte? 

I would assume it's mostly southerners?

perhaps, but per my friend who lived there for a year, there are lots of northeasterners and west coasters there too.  lots of young people are moving there because there are apparently a lot of jobs there.  apparently there are some cool spots in charlotte, but overall it reportedly feels like a giant power and light district surrounded by development akin to (a) college blvd or (b) highway 40 as it goes through east kc and raytown.

If Denver includes Boulder and Orlando includes Daytona, I wonder why Lawrence and St. Joe aren't included with KC.

trailerkid wrote: Why are people moving to Charlotte? 

I would assume it's mostly southerners?

Lots of cities in the sun belt are growing. Charlotte I believe is also a major banking center (although with the way banks are going now, that may be a bad sector to be in)

ignatius wrote: If Denver includes Boulder and Orlando includes Daytona, I wonder why Lawrence and St. Joe aren't included with KC.

That has been debated in many, many census threads on this board.

Where is Portland? I thought they were in the KC/Cincy/Indy range.

miami is missing from this list, too...

These are Consolidated Statisical Area (or whatever they call them now) populations, not metro.  Maybe Portland and Miami don't have CSAs.

chrizow wrote: perhaps, but per my friend who lived there for a year, there are lots of northeasterners and west coasters there too.  lots of young people are moving there because there are apparently a lot of jobs there.  apparently there are some cool spots in charlotte, but overall it reportedly feels like a giant power and light district surrounded by development akin to (a) college blvd or (b) highway 40 as it goes through east kc and raytown.

The rise of Atlanta and Charlotte as major cities is one of the most disturbing and sickening trends of the last 20 years. If those dogs can run with the big boys-- anyone can. I'd rather live in St. Louis for 40 years than Charlotte for a day. You can't tell me the job markets there are the main reason they are attracting so many more people than Seattle or Minneapolis.

I'd rather live in Charlotte any day.

trailerkid wrote: The rise of Atlanta and Charlotte as major cities is one of the most disturbing and sickening trends of the last 20 years. If those dogs can run with the big boys-- anyone can. I'd rather live in St. Louis for 40 years than Charlotte for a day. You can't tell me the job markets there are the main reason they are attracting so many more people than Seattle or Minneapolis.

Well my next door neighbors just moved to Charlotte for jobs and my aunt and uncle moved to Charlotte a year ago for job opportunities.

DaveKCMO wrote: NPR said this morning that texas had four (?) of the highest growth metros (DFW, houston, austin, and san antonio).

Almost all the population growth in Texas is hispanic. Higher birth rate  for cultural reasons and proximity to mexico.

So, Nashville had 55.5% more population growth than we did year-over-year.


Tell me again why the Predators would move here?

trailerkid wrote: The rise of Atlanta and Charlotte as major cities is one of the most disturbing and sickening trends of the last 20 years. If those dogs can run with the big boys-- anyone can. I'd rather live in St. Louis for 40 years than Charlotte for a day. You can't tell me the job markets there are the main reason they are attracting so many more people than Seattle or Minneapolis.

sure, but it's also the case that a lot of young people really dig new, warm cities like that.  we urbanophiles may like old, gritty, "real" cities like st. louis but your typical Duke MBA or Tennessee marketing undergrad major might see a lot of good things in the Charlottes, Atlantas, and Dallases of the country. 

No surprises that the south is growing faster than most cold weather cities.  This has been true ever since air conditioning became common. 

Looks like KC ranks 4th for raw growth in the midwest, no surprises either.  Chicago, MSP, Indy, KC. This has been the trend for a while. Indy attracts mostly from Chicago and Ohio if I recall from the migration thread.

chrizow wrote: sure, but it's also the case that a lot of young people really dig new, warm cities like that.  we urbanophiles may like old, gritty, "real" cities like st. louis but your typical Duke MBA or Tennessee marketing undergrad major might see a lot of good things in the Charlottes, Atlantas, and Dallases of the country. 

I would agree, it's no coincidence that a majority of the cities with the most increase are in the south with warmer climates. Minorites love Atlanta because its alot of other minorities there, same thing with Dallas. I have two family members that moved there because of that. Since we cant change the climate here, I'm content with our increase. But that's just me.

The data I initially posted on here was for the combined statistical area, rather than Metro/Micropolitain area. This set leaves out areas like Miami, San Antonio and Portland. But it does merge areas like Riverside/Ontario CA into LA metro population and San Jose into San Francisco population.  And it results in KC population being larger  :D

All depends on how someone wants to see the data...personally, I consider Riverside/Ontario to be part of LA metro. I just didn't have time to include the omitted cities into the list.  Here are the top cities from the list where the San Joses/Riversides are considered their own entities (again, sorry for the formatting):

Area 2007 2006
New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA 18,815,988 18,782,715
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA 12,875,587 12,866,834
Chicago-Naperville-Joliet, IL-IN-WI 9,524,673 9,458,442
Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX 6,145,037 5,982,787
Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD 5,827,962 5,810,834
Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX 5,628,101 5,507,557
Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL 5,413,212 5,415,440
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV 5,306,565 5,260,705
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA 5,278,904 5,127,841
Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH 4,482,857 4,465,674
Detroit-Warren-Livonia, MI 4,467,592 4,494,906
San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA 4,203,898 4,164,463
Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ 4,179,427 4,046,914
Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA 4,081,371 3,994,711
Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA 3,309,347 3,262,445
Minneapolis-St. Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI 3,208,212 3,172,012
San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA 2,974,859 2,948,362
St. Louis, MO-IL 2,803,707 2,793,720
Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL 2,723,949 2,694,038
Baltimore-Towson, MD 2,668,056 2,663,286
Denver-Aurora, CO /1 2,464,866 2,411,836
Pittsburgh, PA 2,355,712 2,363,214
Portland-Vancouver-Beaverton, OR-WA 2,175,113 2,133,775
Cincinnati-Middletown, OH-KY-IN 2,133,678 2,121,128
Cleveland-Elyria-Mentor, OH 2,096,471 2,105,319
Sacramento--Arden-Arcade--Roseville, CA 2,091,120 2,062,710
Orlando-Kissimmee, FL 2,032,496 1,998,347
San Antonio, TX 1,990,675 1,936,750
Kansas City, MO-KS 1,985,429 1,961,684
Las Vegas-Paradise, NV 1,836,333 1,777,168
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA 1,803,643 1,775,466