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Posted: **Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:23 am**

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

Really great political analysis site. They break it down using polling in states and actual statistics methods, not looking at silly things like national polls like the major media and speculating on facts pulled out of rear ends. One of the main contributors is also a contributor at Baseball Prospectus, for anyone that is familiar with that great site.

Posted: **Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:26 am**

eliphar17 wrote: That "Obama is a Muslim" and "his middle name is Hussein!!!" crap is so sickening to me. It's not the racist undertones that get me mad, it's the fact that the Republicans happily condone such discussion, though without ever publicly saying so of course. They know that literally millions of votes will go their way in November just because of idiots who think Obama is a Muslim. They would be shooting themselves in the foot if they made any concerted effort to educate people in the name of fairness to Obama. Thank you Karl Rove for a Republican party that wants to get power at any cost.

I had to laugh out loud at that post. What a joke.

Posted: **Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:18 pm**

NDTeve wrote: I had to laugh out loud at that post. What a joke.

What's funny is, the Dems are angry that Hillary (and of course, the GOP) darrrrrrres to discuss the Rev. Wright problem, and Obama's nutty church.

But then they turn around and also claim that Hillary & the GOP are trying to portray him as Muslim. How they can pull both of these feats off, is amazing!

Posted: **Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:49 pm**

Maitre D wrote: What's funny is, the Dems are angry that Hillary (and of course, the GOP) darrrrrrres to discuss the Rev. Wright problem, and Obama's nutty church.

But then they turn around and also claim that Hillary & the GOP are trying to portray him as Muslim. How they can pull both of these feats off, is amazing!

In such desperate need for change, anything is possible.

So can you spare some change, I need to catch the bus.

Posted: **Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:39 pm**

Maitre D wrote: What's funny is, the Dems are angry that Hillary (and of course, the GOP) darrrrrrres to discuss the Rev. Wright problem, and Obama's nutty church.

But then they turn around and also claim that Hillary & the GOP are trying to portray him as Muslim. How they can pull both of these feats off, is amazing!

He is pretty amazing!

Posted: **Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:54 pm**

Will Obama pander to the JoeMoney vote?

Hagel says he'd consider VP offer from Obama

Posted: **Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:46 pm**

AllThingsKC wrote: His name is BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA. Calling him that has "racist undertones" in the first place? As far as the GOP condoning that, you're probably right. They have a White House to try a win. If it hurts your enemy, it helps you.

Again, you're probably right. The GOP is trying to win an election. So, why would the Republicans say, "He's not a Muslim"? They don't have to say anything, and people will still think Obama is Muslim, like you pointed out. Further, why would the GOP care about being FAIR to Obama? Do you think Obama cares about being FAIR to McCain? No! Both parties are trying to win and and they WANT people to look at the other candidate negatively. It's call Politics and it sucks.

LOL. Yeah, 'cause I'm sure EVERY SINGLE DEMOCRAT has NEVER tried to lie, cheat, or steal to get in power, ONLY the Republicans. All Republicans are evil. Every single Democrat is so honest and full of grace that they only care about gaining power in a fair, honest way. Sure. Again, I'll say it's call Politics and it sucks.

Well thanks for extrapolating way too far from what I actually said and putting a lot of words in my mouth. I wasn't actually trying to say anything about Democrats or even make a comparison.

I guess rather than the word "fair", I should have used the word "truthful". When a party's campaign for leading the country is, on some deep level, based on encouraging the direct ignorance of millions of people on something so far removed from the actual issues... well that concerns me and I don't understand how people could support such a party. Evidently I'm a whacko for thinking that though.

Posted: **Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:21 pm**

eliphar17 wrote: Well thanks for extrapolating way too far from what I actually said and putting a lot of words in my mouth. I wasn't actually trying to say anything about Democrats or even make a comparison.

My apologies if I read too much into your post.

eliphar17 wrote: I guess rather than the word "fair", I should have used the word "truthful". When a party's campaign for leading the country is, on some deep level, based on encouraging the direct ignorance of millions of people on something so far removed from the actual issues... well that concerns me and I don't understand how people could support such a party. Evidently I'm a whacko for thinking that though.

No, you're not wacko about politics. You're only wacko for being a KU and OU fan. (Just Kidding)

I would like to point out that BOTH parties encourage direct ignorance. Therefore, no matter what party you support, you're going to be part of a "corrupt" (for lack of a better word) party. Sadly, ignorance is bliss for politicians because it helps hide their mis-cues and views.

Posted: **Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:29 pm**

eliphar17 wrote: Well thanks for extrapolating way too far from what I actually said and putting a lot of words in my mouth. I wasn't actually trying to say anything about Democrats or even make a comparison.

I guess rather than the word "fair", I should have used the word "truthful". When a party's campaign for leading the country is, on some deep level, based on encouraging the direct ignorance of millions of people on something so far removed from the actual issues... well that concerns me and I don't understand how people could support such a party. Evidently I'm a whacko for thinking that though.

After seeing the views espoused by his Christian church...I'd almost prefer if Obama was Muslim.

Posted: **Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:52 am**

NDTeve wrote: After seeing the views espoused by his Christian church...I'd almost prefer if Obama was Muslim.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25340374/

Posted: **Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:57 am**

Maitre D wrote: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25340374/

I can't blame the guy for wanting to distance himself from Islam. With all the retarded people out there who are afraid of Muslims, it only makes sense that he wouldn't like being seen in mosques....would only hurt his standing with white America that much more....the votes that he's going to need.

Posted: **Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:07 pm**

So he should distance himself from Islam but not cater to the Christian crowd because all those people are crazy too....All our leaders should be Atheist?

Posted: **Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:10 pm**

NDTeve wrote: So he should distance himself from Islam but not cater to the Christian crowd because all those people are crazy too....All our leaders should be Atheist?

Umm, I can't really tell what you're trying to say here. Can you rephrase this?

Posted: **Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:11 pm**

not Islam...not Christian...not Jewish...no religion too John Lennon.

Posted: **Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:11 pm**

NDTeve wrote: All our leaders should be Atheist?

that would be awesome.

Posted: **Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:13 pm**

Maybe MD should post the link a fourth time, so everyone gets it.

Posted: **Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:15 pm**

NDTeve wrote: not Islam...not Christian...not Jewish...no religion too John Lennon.

You should've left the question mark off your post about our leaders being Atheist. Then I could understand what you were trying to say.

Posted: **Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:18 pm**

NDTeve wrote: not Islam...not Christian...not Jewish...no religion too John Lennon.

John Lennon's views weren't in line with those religions. He was more Buddhist than anything else. Big difference.

Posted: **Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:35 pm**

chrizow wrote: that would be awesome.

"I most certainly agree" - Mao Tse Tung

Posted: **Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:43 pm**

I was quoting "imagine"

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