Election 2008

[Maitre D]

What would a 10% increase in turnout among Republicans, or Independents, do?

[DanCa]

Dobson may be nutty to you and Chrizow, but he's perfectly normal to a huge swath of Americans.

Huge?  Dear god, I would hope not!

My guess would be that his audience is a small minority of older Christians, mostly rural and evangelical. 

[kcmetro]

Huge?  Dear god, I would hope not!

My guess would be that his audience is a small minority of older Christians, mostly rural and evangelical. 

...and their kids who they managed to brainwash into being afraid of going to a place called hell.

[LenexatoKCMO]

McCain should lose b/c his own base doesn't like him and independents are tired of the bad economy + endless Iraq situation.   That matters farrrrr more than 'utes & blacks'

I have to agree with MD.  Assuming Obama wins, I suspect it will have much more to do with McCain's disatisfied consituency staying home than it has to do with some giant increase in Dem turnout.  Sadly, American elections tend to hinge far more on who is the most apathetic as opposed to who is the most enthusiastic.  

[KCMax]

What would a 10% increase in turnout among Republicans, or Independents, do?

Probably tilt a few states in McCain's favor. What are the odds of him generating a 10% increase in turnout among Republicans though?

[Maitre D]

...and their kids who they managed to brainwash into being afraid of going to a place called hell.

I like Dobson quite a bit.  I guess I've been "brainwashed".....

[Maitre D]

Probably tilt a few states in McCain's favor. What are the odds of him generating a 10% increase in turnout among Republicans though?

Almost none.  He didn't even win 1/3 of GOP voters in the contested primaries and I think 20% of them continued to vote against him even after he wrapped it up.

He'll have to make the election about Obama.  Which will fail, unless Obama makes a huge mistake.

[kcmetro]

I like Dobson quite a bit.  I guess I've been "brainwashed".....

He may be a stand-up guy and all...but I'm not a fan of people who condemn others for their "sins", or who cite a pschizo text like the Bible as way to live your life.

[KCMax]

Obama doing quite well in upper midwestern swing states like Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan as well as Colorado. His success among independents in those states is key.

Obama leads McCain in swing states

[Maitre D]

He may be a stand-up guy and all...but I'm not a fan of people who condemn others for their "sins", or who cite a pschizo text like the Bible as way to live your life.

I think pretty much everyone is judgmental, aren't they?

[kcmetro]

I think pretty much everyone is judgmental, aren't they?

Most are.

[phxcat]

I like Dobson quite a bit.  I guess I've been "brainwashed".....

This is how you should discipline your dog:

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/6 ... ing_Method

[KCMax]

This is how you should discipline your dog:

And how you should raise your son to keep him from being gay.

Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.

[mean]

And how you should raise your son to keep him from being gay.

Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.

I...I...wow...I don't really know what to say to that. It's almost too creepy for words.

[kcmetro]

Like I said, Dobson is a nut. He's probably a closet homosexual...like the other preachers who tell their congregations to suppress their "unnatural and sinful" feelings.

[AllThingsKC]

He's probably a closet homosexual...like the other preachers who tell their congregations to suppress their "unnatural and sinful" feelings.

He may not be the only one.  I bet this Democrat is also:


Sadly, some preachers are crazy!

[AJoD]

I...I...wow...I don't really know what to say to that. It's almost too creepy for words.

Dobson didn't write that, though he certainly passed it along and endorses it.  I thought it was creepy, too, but less so in the context of the article.  The article's arguments are certainly far out of the mainstream, but not irrational.  Not saying they're correct or that I agree, but it certainly seems a reasoned and compassionate piece rather than one of a "nutjob."  I don't think anyone can claim the science, theory, and politics of gender identity is settled.

[Maitre D]

Like I said, Dobson is a nut. He's probably a closet homosexual...like the other preachers who tell their congregations to suppress their "unnatural and sinful" feelings.

So I take it, you're probably a "closet Christian" - like other atheists who tell people to suppress their religious feelings?

[DanCa]

I think pretty much everyone is judgmental, aren't they?

My biggest problem with Dobson and his looney group is that they use made up BS "statistics" from Paul Cameron to demonize and dehumanize gay people.  Things like gay men have hundreds of sex partners per year, are predatory pediphiles, disease-ridden, self hating, fight with partners, can't be monagamous, want to be a victim, entice people into gay bashing them, etc.  And if you look at where they got the "statistics", they'll quote some study from a 1978 San Francisco bath house.  The man has even called for the extermination of gay people.  If anyone ever deserved a comparison to Hitler, it's Paul Cameron - and Dobson supports him and his war on gay people.  Just google Paul Cameron and gay to see the crap he publishes.  

[DanCa]

Like I said, Dobson is a nut. He's probably a closet homosexual...like the other preachers who tell their congregations to suppress their "unnatural and sinful" feelings.

I guarantee you Focus on the Family is filled with closet cases.  Look at Gary Bauer and tell me that man isn't a big queen.