Election 2008

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http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/24/ ... pstoryview

In the speech, Obama said: "Even if we did have only Christians in our midst, if we expelled every non-Christian from the United States of America, whose Christianity would we teach in the schools? Would we go with James Dobson's, or Al Sharpton's?"

In response, Minnery said: "Many people have called him [Sharpton] a black racist, and he [Obama] is somehow equating [Dobson] with that and racial bigotry."



I'd hope they wouldn't teach either of those nutcases' Christianity.  :x
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Dobson may be nutty to you and Chrizow, but he's perfectly normal to a huge swath of Americans.
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Maitre D wrote: Dobson may be nutty to you and Chrizow, but he's perfectly normal to a huge swath of Americans.
Even Al Sharpton has a following.
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If you read the article, it is clear that Obama is not equating the two- he is saying that the two interpretations are different, and that the question would be about who's interpretation of the Bible would be taught?  It is also interesting that, while Dobson calls the shellfish thing antiquated, he doesn't address Obama's comment abut the Sermon on the Mount.  I'd also like to know what Dobson's objections to Obama's interpretation of the Constitution are.
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Go ahead and throw Rev. Jackson in the nutcase category.
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NDTeve wrote: Go ahead and throw Rev. Jackson in the nutcase category.
Along with any preacher who claims to know what's going to happen to you or me after we die.
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KCMax wrote: Even Al Sharpton has a following.
So does Rev Wright.


I think you missed the point.
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maybe it's just me.... but does anyone else get a sense that Obama is getting a heck of a lot more attention than McCain?  Seems like something of a double edged sword.  On the one hand, his name is constantly in the spotlight and folks keep hearing about him.... on the other, any smidgen of controversy gets plastered on the front page (i.e yesterday CNN.com's headline story was "Obama Distorts Bible, according to Dobson"- or something to that effect), while the story about McCain's adviser suggesting another terrorist attack on the U.S would be good for McCain is buried in the "political ticker" section. 

Of course this may just be cnn.... i noticed that Obama's response to the Dobson remarks was buried in the political ticker section today.
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ComandanteCero wrote:maybe it's just me.... but does anyone else get a sense that Obama is getting a heck of a lot more attention than McCain?
probably because he's raising more money, gathering larger crowds, and has a big following in the most prized of demographic categories. regardless, there have been plenty of critiques saying the media has been easy on mccain (letting him continue to work his "renegade" halo, being "healthy" while being pumped full of pharmaceuticals).
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Even Republicans are trying to ride the Obama wave!

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Not really.  The guy is running in Oregon.
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DaveKCMO wrote: probably because he's raising more money,
For May the money totals were rather close.  On the other hand the RNC has more cash on hand than the DNC.
I may be right.  I may be wrong.  But there is a lot of gray area in-between.
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aknowledgeableperson wrote: For May the money totals were rather close.  On the other hand the RNC has more cash on hand than the DNC.
one month isn't a trend, and it won't be. the most logical conclusion is that people were glad the primary season was over and went on to other things (including me).
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You know, Dude, I myself dabbled in pacifism once. Not in 'Nam of course.
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DaveKCMO wrote: one month isn't a trend, and it won't be. the most logical conclusion is that people were glad the primary season was over and went on to other things (including me).
It isn't a trend but the McCain money people could have been holding back until crunch time (he doesn't need the money now but will later).
I may be right.  I may be wrong.  But there is a lot of gray area in-between.
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Obama: The Ten Percent Solution

A projection by the Tribune based on the results of the 2004 election shows that a turnout increase of 10 percent among blacks and youths--two groups that have demonstrated considerable excitement over the Obama candidacy--would offer a powerful potential lift to his campaign.

Two states that the Republicans narrowly won last time, Iowa and New Mexico, would switch to the Democratic column. The Republican lead in Ohio would plummet from more than 118,000 votes to fewer than 6,000. A host of Republican states would come into play, while Democratic leads would be substantially cushioned in major blue states that Republican candidate John McCain has targeted: Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Minnesota.


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The "youth vote"  Pfffft.  Every election, I hear the DNC predict it'll show up, and every election it stays home eating cheesy puffs and playing XBox.


Black youth, what's that?  A potential 1% of the entire voting population?  Irrelevant.



McCain should lose b/c his own base doesn't like him and independents are tired of the bad economy + endless Iraq situation.  That matters farrrrr more than 'utes & blacks'
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Maitre D wrote: Black youth, what's that?  A potential 1% of the entire voting population?  Irrelevant.
Just a 10 percent increase in turnout among blacks would make up more than 40 percent of Bush's 2004 victory margin in Ohio and more than 20 percent of the Republicans' 2004 victory margin in Florida.
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