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KCPowercat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:49 pm Well I wouldn't worry about Pendulum being the final architect or like you said, this being the design.

Location, location, location. Any design they have is better than The K for that reason alone. I’ve never heard of Pendullum anyway. This design is all sizzle, no fire.

Let's just see if we can get the airport done without going bankrupt. Then we can fantasize about downtown baseball.

Steve52 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:49 pm Let's just see if we can get the airport done without going bankrupt. Then we can fantasize about downtown baseball.

??? Airport is already paid for. Airlines agreed to fund including any overages.

Steve52 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:24 pm Who is going to pay for this?

ssssshhhhhh!

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:49 pm

beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:39 pm

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:31 pm just being a smartass. It seems like the lower level goes down, the field seems below grade?

Look at the video. It’s shows a huge double bank of stairs at the entrance. If the field is below grade, it’s not very deep, definitely much shallower than The K. Why make the first thing everyone has to do is climb a mountain of stairs? I’m underwhelmed by the overall design.

Well I wouldn't worry about Pendulum being the final architect or like you said, this being the design.

Per their website, Pendulum has designed ~14 baseball stadiums (minor leagues) and was involved with the East Village master plan and apartments. If this is what a smaller firm comes up with, I want to see what KC powerhouses Populous, HOK, HNTB, and MANICA can come up with.

Agreed

Like the moderism, good homage to the K.

Pool is dumb.

No Crownvision scoreboard + no outfield fountains = no support from me.

Should orient toward downtown for skyline views.

This is good for conversation starting but KC should go bold and instead of doing a traditional circle top over stands, do something like hotel/residential surrounding the field and stands/boxes merged into the lower floors of the hirises. And design the field to be multi-function, not just for baseball. All kinds of public accessible spaces in the hirises could be facing the field - restaurants, new library, coffee shop, pubs with regular operating hours, public swimming pool, public park deck, fitness center, etc. facing any kind of event that fits for the space. Merge the stadium into downtown instead of making it a separate isolated single purpose place. Morph it into multiple functions from the start rather than thinking baseball first that is retrofitted to other functions as an afterthought.

And don't call it a baseball stadium yet design it so that it's so kickass for baseball, players want to play there and baseball fans of any team want to visit it. Yes, do think can be multi-function while still being best play to play ball. Some new arenas have managed to be multifunction while great for any event.

With this example imagine the two small 'buildings' expanded over the entrance and to 35+ floors, one a hotel, the other a residential, with public accessible space the first 5 or so floors above stands facing the field, with the functions described in my previous post.

I would support KCMO tax payers partly funding a small portion if there is *a lot* of publicly accessible space to it as I described (outside of events). Otherwise if it's only about baseball, baseball visitors/investors should be paying for it (things like car rental tax acceptable too).

shinatoo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:37 am Should orient toward downtown for skyline views.

baseball stadiums usually face northeast due to balls getting lost in the sun.

I find nothing interesting or compelling about that stadium design.

mister816 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:53 am

shinatoo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:37 am Should orient toward downtown for skyline views.

baseball stadiums usually face northeast due to balls getting lost in the sun.

Not only that but if the stadium was facing west the seating would look directly into the sun as it is setting.

Once Kauffman Center was built we lost the only spot we could have put a stadium that would have a striking skyline view.

scooterj wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:08 pm Once Kauffman Center was built we lost the only spot we could have put a stadium that would have a striking skyline view.

Busch Stadium is approx 750x850

That site was 550x560.

It was never a contender

30k seats would make it just slightly larger than the new Rosenblatt Stadium in Omaha.

chaglang wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:00 pm 30k seats would make it just slightly larger than the new Rosenblatt Stadium in Omaha.

TD Ameritrade Park has a 24k capacity.
They designed it to expand to 35k

It's 760x710

Share with TBones.

mgsports wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:41 pm Share with TBones.

they don't exist

It's going to have to seat 35k in reality
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U ... y_capacity

flyingember wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:07 pm

chaglang wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:00 pm 30k seats would make it just slightly larger than the new Rosenblatt Stadium in Omaha.

TD Ameritrade Park has a 24k capacity.
They designed it to expand to 35k

It's 760x710

It's a nice college baseball stadium.