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Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:42 pm
by dnweava
stadium design capital of the world and that's what we come up with... ugh..... literally the only thing I like about it is the extension of the highway cap
Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:51 pm
by Critical_Mass
dnweava wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:25 pm
FUCK. THAT. PLAN.
Keep oak open
Here you go, Northland buddy
Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:53 pm
by shinatoo
So we will be closing Grand, Walnut and Oak through downtown? 30%of the through street? 40% if you count Main with the streetcar?
Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:53 pm
by KC_Ari
That is it? Absolutely disgusting. Vote this bullshit down.
Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:53 pm
by KCDowntown
Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:55 pm
by DColeKC
beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:34 pm
The stadium doesn’t even face downtown and the pool deck of a residential building is not an “entertainment area”. Killing Oak and Grand being packed will mean all normal traffic is sitting right on the streetcar lane.
Cordish should release the city from their bond requirements for P&L as part of this plan. We’ve spent so much money subsidizing their development with T-Mobile money and now this. They should be able to get by without that public money.
There's an amazing view of the downtown skyline from inside the stadium.
And your suggestion is par for the course. Complete bullshit.
Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:04 pm
by TheUrbanRoo
You people are I-N-S-A-N-E if you don't vibe with this. There's *no other city* that has this much density, activity & towers 360 around their given stadium. Maybe Wrigley...this is iconic.
It just makes downtown KC look huge and important to just off a glance.
Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:04 pm
by bricknose
KC_Ari wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:53 pm
That is it? Absolutely disgusting. Vote this bullshit down.
I don’t get this. What’s the problem? It seems pretty minimally disruptive, compliments and expands the South Loop cap, doesn’t create an additional restaurant district to compete with the Crossroads, melds into the existing parking infrastructure with no added waste, and looks to have a hell of a view with the skyline looming behind the stadium.
Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:06 pm
by shinatoo
So we will be closing Grand, Walnut and Oak through downtown? 30%of the through street? 40% if you count Main with the streetcar?
Don't like the brick exterior. Love the fountains (will they work in the batters eye?). Upper deck is much smaller, which is good.
Fences look short. Would love to know the dimensions.
Scoreboard in center field and not a gratuitous use of LED panels are good.
On closer examination the fountains look like LED boards. hope that's not the case and just poor renderings.
Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:07 pm
by AllThingsKC
Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:08 pm
by Rusty Irish
Hoping we get some real hard questions from journalists before this finishes about existing tenants and not some bs about the Chiefs or Taylor Swift.
Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:11 pm
by brewcrew1000
With the stadium in this location i think you have a better opportunity to run Shuttles from the various bar districts. Westport, Plaza, North KC, Martini Corner, Strawberry Hill could all run shuttles around from the various bars. You park in westport drink a little at the westport bar and a shuttle comes to drop you off and pick you up. They do this in Milwaukee and Detroit around various points/districts and I really like it.
Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:13 pm
by shinatoo
brewcrew1000 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:11 pm
With the stadium in this location i think you have a better opportunity to run Shuttles from the various bar districts. Westport, Plaza, North KC, Martini Corner, Strawberry Hill could all run shuttles around from the various bars. You park in westport drink a little at the westport bar and a shuttle comes to drop you off and pick you up. They do this in Milwaukee and Detroit around various points/districts and I really like it.
Wouldn't you just get on the streetcar from the Plaza and Westport?
Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:26 pm
by TheBigChuckbowski
Overall, this seems pretty detached from reality for the vote and will be rolled back considerably once they've gotten all the approvals.
The office, residential and hotel will probably just be a parking garage. If that stuff isn't built along with the stadium then it's not happening.
I feel like that pedestrian bridge is just vaporware BS and will disappear from the plans relatively quickly, right? I mean, what is it connecting? The outfield with the exterior wall of T-Mobile Center? Why do those two things need a bridge connecting them?
There's also a 0% chance the cap park goes all the way to Locust, right? Who is paying for that and why?
Closing Oak just isn't acceptable. Narrow it and run in under the stadium. Maybe that's happening, it's hard to tell. The overhead shot shows Oak clearly represented over the cap but not in the renderings. The buildings are oriented like there's a street there but I don't see it.
I love that the main entrance to the park is directly across the street from the sketchiest gas station in downtown which won't be changing anytime soon unless the Royals buy it to put in parking.
Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:27 pm
by brewcrew1000
shinatoo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:13 pm
brewcrew1000 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:11 pm
With the stadium in this location i think you have a better opportunity to run Shuttles from the various bar districts. Westport, Plaza, North KC, Martini Corner, Strawberry Hill could all run shuttles around from the various bars. You park in westport drink a little at the westport bar and a shuttle comes to drop you off and pick you up. They do this in Milwaukee and Detroit around various points/districts and I really like it.
Wouldn't you just get on the streetcar from the Plaza and Westport?
Streetcar might take a long time and with the shuttles u could just keep drinking on them, I think it's legal to drink in a moving vehicle in Missouri
Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:37 pm
by shinatoo
TheBigChuckbowski wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:26 pm
Overall, this seems pretty detached from reality for the vote and will be rolled back considerably once they've gotten all the approvals.
The office, residential and hotel will probably just be a parking garage. If that stuff isn't built along with the stadium then it's not happening.
I feel like that pedestrian bridge is just vaporware BS and will disappear from the plans relatively quickly, right? I mean, what is it connecting? The outfield with the exterior wall of T-Mobile Center? Why do those two things need a bridge connecting them?
There's also a 0% chance the cap park goes all the way to Locust, right? Who is paying for that and why?
Closing Oak just isn't acceptable. Narrow it and run in under the stadium. Maybe that's happening, it's hard to tell. The overhead shot shows Oak clearly represented over the cap but not in the renderings. The buildings are oriented like there's a street there but I don't see it.
I love that the main entrance to the park is directly across the street from the sketchiest gas station in downtown which won't be changing anytime soon unless the Royals buy it to put in parking.
The highway cap and pedestrian bridge will be as iconic as the rolling roof at TSC. (I kid). But I would put money on the pond in the NW corner becoming a paved plaza in the first three years.
Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:42 pm
by DColeKC
There will be many ways fans will end up on the street level but the bridge over Truman is clutch to help provide a nice, safe way for fans to move about without needing to cross at Truman Street level.
Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:45 pm
by beautyfromashes
DColeKC wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:42 pm
There will be many ways fans will end up on the street level but the bridge over Truman is clutch to help provide a nice, safe way for fans to move about without needing to cross at Truman Street level.
The bridge is key to funnel people to the door of your overlords watering hole, nothing more.
Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:46 pm
by moderne
Keep drunks off the street for safety.
Re: Downtown Baseball Stadium
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:49 pm
by smh
DColeKC wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:42 pm
There will be many ways fans will end up on the street level but the bridge over Truman is clutch to help provide a nice, safe way for fans to move about without needing to cross at Truman Street level.
Sorry man, but the bridge sucks, and you know I am inclined towards this site.
Let me be more polite. I think in this situation, you will have some ticketholders who use the bridge, but many who just cross at street level. In that scenario, you will still need event day traffic control at street level which makes the bridge redundant.
