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Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:06 pm
by shinatoo
Actually, if you want the best views of downtown, and want to make use of the most worthless real estate in Downtown, build it where the ball fields are in Penn Valley Park. A short walk from the streetcar. Plenty of bus lines. Walking distance to many potential bar districts.

Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:09 pm
by WSPanic
shinatoo wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:06 pm Actually, if you want the best views of downtown, and want to make use of the most worthless real estate in Downtown, build it where the ball fields are in Penn Valley Park. A short walk from the streetcar. Plenty of bus lines. Walking distance to many potential bar districts.
True. The current softball fields at PVP have a better view than any of the proposed sites.

Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:11 pm
by shinatoo
WSPanic wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:09 pm
shinatoo wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:06 pm Actually, if you want the best views of downtown, and want to make use of the most worthless real estate in Downtown, build it where the ball fields are in Penn Valley Park. A short walk from the streetcar. Plenty of bus lines. Walking distance to many potential bar districts.
True. The current softball fields at PVP have a better view than any of the proposed sites.
Plus the parking garages for the IRS center sit empty most of the Baseball season.

Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:20 pm
by flyingember
shinatoo wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:11 pm Plus the parking garages for the IRS center sit empty most of the Baseball season.
You're never going to get a government building to open up their parking garage for anything, especially when there's office space above it.

Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:22 pm
by flyingember
shinatoo wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:06 pm Actually, if you want the best views of downtown, and want to make use of the most worthless real estate in Downtown, build it where the ball fields are in Penn Valley Park. A short walk from the streetcar. Plenty of bus lines. Walking distance to many potential bar districts.
And would come with a major freeway modification. There's no I-35 ramps from the south into this area.

Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:14 pm
by kcjak
Plenty of parking in downtown KCK!

Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:31 pm
by johnmatrix
A good point that was brought up about the new ball park is privately last time the Royals were against the idea because of parking. I know we want to become more parking dense downtown but keep in mind all the lost revenue the Royals will see from the parking situation. I think Kansas will make a run at them as well.

Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:42 pm
by shinatoo
kcjak wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:14 pm Plenty of parking in downtown KCK!
If it's going to Kansas I would rather it go there than anywhere else. That would be a hell of a view.

Why have this view:

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When you could have this one:

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I jest, of course. You could find a way to have a nice view of downtown. I was just using true north 3rd base alignment.

More like this.

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Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:13 pm
by FangKC
I recall reading about some history of Penn Valley Park. In one of the plans for the park, the bowl area, where the lake is, was proposed to be the site of an outdoor coliseum / stadium. This plan would have been before I-35 existed.

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If the IRS Processing Center had not been built there, it would have been a good location for the baseball stadium.

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Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:49 am
by brewcrew1000
johnmatrix wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:31 pm I think Kansas will make a run at them as well.
I think a Kansas Stadium is more likely than a downtown stadium, I think the Royals will follow a blueprint similar to Atlanta and use excuses like (a Majority of our Fanbase is located in Johnson County)

I think you will only see a downtown stadium is if we had a local ownership who cared about the city. Kansas City need a rex sinquefield type who wants to invest in the city and bring the city back to life.

Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:19 pm
by johnmatrix
brewcrew1000 wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:49 am
johnmatrix wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:31 pm I think Kansas will make a run at them as well.
I think a Kansas Stadium is more likely than a downtown stadium, I think the Royals will follow a blueprint similar to Atlanta and use excuses like (a Majority of our Fanbase is located in Johnson County)

I think you will only see a downtown stadium is if we had a local ownership who cared about the city. Kansas City need a rex sinquefield type who wants to invest in the city and bring the city back to life.
I would love a downtown ballpark it makes the most sense. I wish Rex would buy the team but I think half the city would go nuts given todays political climate.

Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:03 pm
by im2kull
normalthings wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:54 am At the end of the current leases, TSC will be over 60 years old. Something new will likely need to be built somewhere and needs to be paid for by everyone.
Needs?

No, a complete move and rebuild is a "Want". Period.

Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:35 pm
by normalthings
im2kull wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:03 pm
normalthings wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:54 am At the end of the current leases, TSC will be over 60 years old. Something new will likely need to be built somewhere and needs to be paid for by everyone.
Needs?

No, a complete move and rebuild is a "Want". Period.
I meant that if a new stadium is the path forward then the metro needs to pay, not just KCMO/Jackson.

Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:17 pm
by FangKC
Yikes! Anyone but Rex Sinquefield. We need a modern-version of Ewing Kauffman.

Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:41 pm
by DaveKCMO
Sell the team to Wal-Mart. That'd be a winner. LOL

Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:55 am
by alejandro46
Opinion from Port KC director. No mention or option of Berkley Riverfront as potential site.

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Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:02 am
by flyingember
alejandro46 wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:55 am Opinion from Port KC director. No mention or option of Berkley Riverfront as potential site.
The riverfront isn't deep enough.

Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:23 am
by normalthings
flyingember wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:02 am
alejandro46 wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:55 am Opinion from Port KC director. No mention or option of Berkley Riverfront as potential site.
The riverfront isn't deep enough.
Berkeley is only big enough for a smaller Sporting KC sized stadium

Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:45 am
by alejandro46
normalthings wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:23 am
flyingember wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:02 am
alejandro46 wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:55 am Opinion from Port KC director. No mention or option of Berkley Riverfront as potential site.
The riverfront isn't deep enough.
Berkeley is only big enough for a smaller Sporting KC sized stadium
Ah makes sense.

My current opinion is not in favor of new downtown stadium I'd rather develop area around TSC and evaluate if we can run transit from downtown, but I strongly agree to study all options, check price tags, and gain input from ownership and city leaders.

Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:00 am
by beautyfromashes
I still like North Loop as part of removing the highway. Put parking garages in the trench.