Downtown Baseball Stadium

[DColeKC]

Royals are not looking at a rehab option.

[Cratedigger]

Royals are not looking at a rehab option.

Royals have looked at a rehab option but the focus and desire is to move downtown

[aknowledgeableperson]

And a rehab will be cheaper than a new build.

not accurate.

One has to consider land costs along with clearing, water and sewer upgrades along with possible electric, costs a TSC rehab will not have to bear. In past times rehabbing Royal's stadium was far cheaper than building new.
So, why is the statement inaccurate? Explain.

[normalthings]

And a rehab will be cheaper than a new build.

not accurate.

One has to consider land costs along with clearing, water and sewer upgrades along with possible electric, costs a TSC rehab will not have to bear. In past times rehabbing Royal's stadium was far cheaper than building new.
So, why is the statement inaccurate? Explain.

A full gut rehab, what is required, will be more expensive than a new build. It’s just like the KCI new vs Reno discussion

[DColeKC]

Royals are not looking at a rehab option.

Royals have looked at a rehab option but the focus and desire is to move downtown

I guess you could say they've looked at the cost but not because they're considering it. More likely so they can be prepared when all the KC boomers who think Kauffman is "fine the way it is" ask about renovating and staying put.

[DColeKC]

Past work on the K was about adding features and dressing up the look. Basically lipstick on a pig + new bells and whistles.

The Royals don't exactly have a stadium problem, they have a stadium location problem.

[AlkaliAxel]

Past work on the K was about adding features and dressing up the look. Basically lipstick on a pig + new bells and whistles.

The Royals don't exactly have a stadium problem, they have a stadium location problem.

But if Chiefs are going on ballot with Royals in spring, wouldn't that mean they also are going for a new stadium?

[DColeKC]

Past work on the K was about adding features and dressing up the look. Basically lipstick on a pig + new bells and whistles.

The Royals don't exactly have a stadium problem, they have a stadium location problem.

But if Chiefs are going on ballot with Royals in spring, wouldn't that mean they also are going for a new stadium?

Could be a joint venture asking for a tax to help fund a new baseball stadium and a arrowhead renovation. I think the Chiefs being involved is clever but this round could also just be for the fifa upgrades Arrowhead needs.

[aknowledgeableperson]

Believe the current JC sales tax isn't set to expire until 2031 when the stadium leases are up. So any tax vote would likely be for a new tax, whatever kind of tax is chosen. Both teams have been treated equally when it comes to tax support, doubt a new baseball stadium and FIFA upgrades would be equal. Then you would have to have a second election for the Chiefs stadium.
BTW forgot to add the possible cost of a parking garage or two if there is a new baseball stadium downtown.

[DColeKC]

Believe the current JC sales tax isn't set to expire until 2031 when the stadium leases are up. So any tax vote would likely be for a new tax, whatever kind of tax is chosen. Both teams have been treated equally when it comes to tax support, doubt a new baseball stadium and FIFA upgrades would be equal. Then you would have to have a second election for the Chiefs stadium.
BTW forgot to add the possible cost of a parking garage or two if there is a new baseball stadium downtown.

Parking revenue they don' have to share and doesn't allow for tailgating. You just hit a major reason to move baseball downtown.

[aknowledgeableperson]

"Parking revenue they don' have to share and doesn't allow for tailgating."

The teams don't share parking revenues, they keep the revenues for their games but also have the operating costs on those game days. Believe they do share the costs to maintain the parking lots (I do believe) but how they share I don't know.

[DColeKC]

"Parking revenue they don' have to share and doesn't allow for tailgating."

The teams don't share parking revenues, they keep the revenues for their games but also have the operating costs on those game days. Believe they do share the costs to maintain the parking lots (I do believe) but how they share I don't know.

Yeah, was thinking they share with the city. Which I guess they’d advocate for again with a new structure. But the big win is discouraging tailgating so they can climb from the bottom of the league in concession revenue. Which could hopefully correlate to a better product on the field.

[Rusty Irish]

I have to say I can't see Kansas ever going empty handed and all three teams being in Missouri.

It was only recently they were talking up using star bonds and sports betting money to get the Chiefs. Long term situation I feel at this point is SKC staying where they are, Royals Downtown and a new stadium for the Chiefs on TSC, for better or worse.

[DColeKC]

I have to say I can't see Kansas ever going empty handed and all three teams being in Missouri.

It was only recently they were talking up using star bonds and sports betting money to get the Chiefs. Long term situation I feel at this point is SKC staying where they are, Royals Downtown and a new stadium for the Chiefs on TSC, for better or worse.

Don't completely disagree but I see a slightly different version.

Royals downtown -
Chiefs Renovate Arrowhead
SKC finds its way downtown in 10 years.

[dukuboy1]

I really hope the Royals are not looking to get a public vote on moving downtown. That would be an epic disaster. If they want to move it’s basically going to be on their dime. I can see KC & Jackson County offering some incentives but no way they put this to a tax payer financed kind of deal. That would be really dumb. Plus if you need that go ahead & sell & move the team now and save all of us heartache down the road.

[KCDowntown]

John Sherman will be talking to the press sometime this afternoon. There is no indication yet as to what he will be discussing.

KCDowntown

[TheUrbanRoo]

John Sherman will be talking to the press sometime this afternoon. There is no indication yet as to what he will be discussing.

KCDowntown

Just saw this too. Is it happening??

[KCDowntown]

Just saw this too. Is it happening??

Press conference at 2PM. Still no indication on what will be discussed. I have seen that KCTV5 will have a live feed.

KCDowntown

[WoodDraw]

I feel like this isn’t how you announce a move? Wouldn’t you want to be surrounded by all the other important people? And not when you’re ending a pathetic season?

There was a really damning piece out a week or so ago about how awful and behind the times the royals are.

This might be about that

[TheUrbanRoo]

I feel like this isn’t how you announce a move? Wouldn’t you want to be surrounded by all the other important people? And not when you’re ending a pathetic season?

There was a really damning piece out a week or so ago about how awful and behind the times the royals are.

This might be about that

Speculation is either they’re firing people or it’s stadium. Or it could end up being just info about new stadium- perhaps they finally release renderings today.