Downtown Baseball Stadium

[TheUrbanRoo]

WSP would be a no-brainer if we had a regional rail system from Union Station to Merriam, Overland Park, Lenexa, Olathe, Independence, Lee's Summit, Warrensburg, Parkville, St. Joseph, Liberty, Bonner Springs and Lawrence.

I've long thought that for KC you'd have to do this in reverse. You have to build the reason they need it first before they'll build it. They were never gonna fund it without a reason for themselves. Hopefully that will be something to wake them up, having a baseball stadium right next to a train station...

[TheUrbanRoo]

610 sports Cody & Gold show says out of all 3 sites mentioned for the Royals (NKC, East V, East Crossroads) that the WSP site has by far had the least resistance and most positivity they've seen out their listeners and textline to the show. Much better than they'd seen from the other sites.

[DColeKC]

610 sports Cody & Gold show says out of all 3 sites mentioned for the Royals (NKC, East V, East Crossroads) that the WSP site has by far had the least resistance and most positivity they've seen out their listeners and textline to the show. Much better than they'd seen from the other sites.

Because it's the least imaginative. People lack grand vision and can't seem to remove themselves or their temporary inconveniences to step back and look at what's best for the city.

I've come around on WSP but it's not going to be what could have been with EV or EC. The stadium could end up being great, but the overall fan experience is going to be lackluster compared to the other sites.

Seems to me the people who bring up parking right out of the gate are the people who attend 3 games a year. Like the people who brought up the convenience factor of the old airport when they flew out of it once a year.

[moderne]

Saying that you prefer EV over WSP? Why?

[DColeKC]

Saying that you prefer EV over WSP? Why?

Proximity to a well known, established entertainment district that's heavily engrained into the local sports scene and nationally known by many sports fans. The cohesiveness between a baseball stadium and kansas city live could have been similar to what makes the T-Mobile center one of the best setups in the country. With WSP, you do get some lift to existing assets but once again, you're really relying on the stadium to spur new development which historically hasn't seemed to work well around the country.

[moderne]

What is the difference in actual measurement and in walk time from/to KC LIVE to WSP and EV?

[DColeKC]

What is the difference in actual measurement and in walk time from/to KC LIVE to WSP and EV?

EV - 1,300 feet - 4 minutes
WSP - 3,815 feet - 12 minutes
EC - 90 seconds

[beautyfromashes]

610 sports Cody & Gold show says out of all 3 sites mentioned for the Royals (NKC, East V, East Crossroads) that the WSP site has by far had the least resistance and most positivity they've seen out their listeners and textline to the show. Much better than they'd seen from the other sites.

I'd agree with this, but there is still a lot of ground to make up if the city wants or has to vote for a WSP site. Sure, the EC site was absolutely hated by many and some of those who voted against it might switch with the new site but the vote was very lopsided. My guess is the Royals go all in for a final push with "if this vote fails we will be moving to Kansas" and that it squeaks by.

[mgsports]

WSP would be a no-brainer if we had a regional rail system from Union Station to Merriam, Overland Park, Lenexa, Olathe, Independence, Lee's Summit, Warrensburg, Parkville, St. Joseph, Liberty, Bonner Springs and Lawrence.

Second it and even Streetcar down like Metcalf.

[TheUrbanRoo]

610 sports Cody & Gold show says out of all 3 sites mentioned for the Royals (NKC, East V, East Crossroads) that the WSP site has by far had the least resistance and most positivity they've seen out their listeners and textline to the show. Much better than they'd seen from the other sites.

I'd agree with this, but there is still a lot of ground to make up if the city wants or has to vote for a WSP site. Sure, the EC site was absolutely hated by many and some of those who voted against it might switch with the new site but the vote was very lopsided. My guess is the Royals go all in for a final push with "if this vote fails we will be moving to Kansas" and that it squeaks by.

I doubt they're gonna do a vote

In fact I think the whole reason the Chiefs lobbied to kill the JaxCo Nov. vote for them was because they dont want one either.

[langosta]

WSP would be a no-brainer if we had a regional rail system from Union Station to Merriam, Overland Park, Lenexa, Olathe, Independence, Lee's Summit, Warrensburg, Parkville, St. Joseph, Liberty, Bonner Springs and Lawrence.

Second it and even Streetcar down like Metcalf.

I’d vote for a LRT!

[aknowledgeableperson]

Hunt is a good owner in the sense that they win. But he has been a terrible community member if you ask me. I know it's not un-common for NFL owners to live outside the community, but I'll just never get over it. Considering how much value this franchise adds to his family's fortune, The hunt family name should be all over every building in the city - up there with the Kaufmann's, blochs, halls, kempers, Helzbergs etc. In reality the hunt family fortune dwarfs these other families and they are relatively non-existent in the community. Kudos to Sherman for living here, mixing it up in the community, and being quite generous with his comparatively much smaller fortune.

The Hunt family has given the community Worlds/Oceans of Fun and Hunt Midwest which has developed over the years many properties (industrial, storage, residential, healthcare) in the area. The Hunt name may not be on the properties but the area sure has benefited greatly being an adopted area for the family.

[KCPowercat]

Kaufmann's, blochs, halls, kempers, Helzbergs

All these names came from businesses being successful. The Hunts have owned a team here since the 60's not really built much of a business here, little different.

[DColeKC]

Kaufmann's, blochs, halls, kempers, Helzbergs

All these names came from businesses being successful. The Hunts have owned a team here since the 60's not really built much of a business here, little different.

The Hunts brought us an NFL team. The Hunts are also essentially responsible for MLS soccer in this city. The Hunts were a critical player in getting the NFL and MLS to where it's at today. It would be interesting to see if any of those other families have had a bigger economic impact on the city and region as a whole compared to the Hunts.

[langosta]

Kaufmann's, blochs, halls, kempers, Helzbergs

All these names came from businesses being successful. The Hunts have owned a team here since the 60's not really built much of a business here, little different.

The Hunts brought us an NFL team. The Hunts are also essentially responsible for MLS soccer in this city. The Hunts were a critical player in getting the NFL and MLS to where it's at today. It would be interesting to see if any of those other families have had a bigger economic impact on the city and region as a whole compared to the Hunts.

Well I mean all of the ones who created large or high paid employment bases

[aknowledgeableperson]

Yes, not all in KC Metro area but still a major impact.
https://huntmidwest.com/

[smh]

Mildly pie in the sky, but I still think turning the Union Station parking lot into a square/plaza that can be part of gameday activities would be a nice way to link the two sides of Main. That parking lot is (imho) a bit of an eye sore in front of such a grand building and hardly seems necessary with the garage and other nearby parking. You could maintain a drop of lane of some kind as needed.

[KCPowercat]

Agreed

[FangKC]

Had the Hunts built buildings the size of One Kansas City Place at least 55 times would that be a major business here in KC? Because they have created the equivalent of that underground at Subtroplis for use by local businesses--55 million square feet of space.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SubTropolis

[TheUrbanRoo]

Mildly pie in the sky, but I still think turning the Union Station parking lot into a square/plaza that can be part of gameday activities would be a nice way to link the two sides of Main. That parking lot is (imho) a bit of an eye sore in front of such a grand building and hardly seems necessary with the garage and other nearby parking. You could maintain a drop of lane of some kind as needed.

100% agree. Literally no reason for it with the garage's already there and soon a stadium. It'd also enhance the views too a bit.