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Pendergast wrote: Full disclosure:  I voted for Kerry in 04 precisely because he was NOT Bush.   I will never vote for someone with a middle name of W. 

bobbyhawks wrote: It is definitely in poor taste not to do so, but to question a person's entire system of beliefs and integrity simply because they don't hold their hand over their heart one time is idiotic. 

bobbyhawks wrote: Sadly, I think it is easier to proliferate bigotry when it is masked as an anti-Muslim message.  Most people, even the biased ones, have been conditioned to never overtly admit racial bias, but for some reason it is OK to openly hate the allegedly anti-patriotic and those of Islamic faith (mostly if their beliefs are qualified as "extremist").  I think it is sad that this veil of intolerance still exists to the degree I have seen with the Obama e-mails. 

Also, didn't we learn our lesson from blind faith in the church of patriotism from our current leader.  Whoever has the most flag magnets on his or her car does not win us a war or favor in the middle east or make us better people.  In fact, I would think that many people with those magnets are so disconnected from the war, they couldn't tell you that we are still in Afghanistan.  Are we going to start kicking people out of baseball games for not holding their hands over their hearts or removing their caps?  It is definitely in poor taste not to do so, but to question a person's entire system of beliefs and integrity simply because they don't hold their hand over their heart one time is idiotic. 

The level of untruth and misinformation being distributed through e-mail now would make the North Koreans blush, but I guess that has been happening since the dawn of AOL.  If you don't know about it already, snopes.com is a great way to debunk any suspect chain e-mails you get.

NDTeve wrote: So people who demonstrate patriotism are idiots and "disconnected from the war" --what a joke - the people that act the most unpatriotic are also the most patriotic too right?

bobbyhawks wrote: Not that there is anything wrong with it, but if you think slapping a magnet on your car is a demonstration of patriotism, your definition is different than mine.  I never alleged that flag-wavers are all "disconnected from the war" or wrong or bad, because many proudly display the colors for all the right reasons.  You just made that part up.  I choose to fly the flag, but that alone does not make me a patriot, and no number of stickers or decals or pins can prove anything.  Many Americans are disconnected from the war, flag-waving and not, and the fact that SOME also show some half-assed support, if any, for something they know nothing about should come as no real shock. 

KCMax wrote: Not that it means much of anything right now,

Things should be pretty fluid over the next few months. Dukakis and Kerry were both leading nationwide at this point, so June polls aren't predictive,

aknowledgeableperson wrote: For the 'O' maybe it should be Sebelius or McCaskill?  Will he retain the women with these one of these?

aknowledgeableperson wrote: For 'Mc' maybe it should be Lieberman?  Get the Jewish vote and maybe the religious conservative?

eliphar17 wrote: That "Obama is a Muslim" and "his middle name is Hussein!!!" crap is so sickening to me.  not the racist undertones that get me mad, it's the fact that the Republicans happily condone such discussion, though without ever publicly saying so of course.

eliphar17 wrote: They know that literally millions of votes will go their way in November just because of idiots who think Obama is a Muslim. They would be shooting themselves in the foot if they made any concerted effort to educate people in the name of fairness to Obama.

eliphar17 wrote: Thank you Karl Rove for a Republican party that wants to get power at any cost.

eliphar17 wrote: That "Obama is a Muslim" and "his middle name is Hussein!!!" crap is so sickening to me. It's not the racist undertones that get me mad, it's the fact that the Republicans happily condone such discussion, though without ever publicly saying so of course. They know that literally millions of votes will go their way in November just because of idiots who think Obama is a Muslim. They would be shooting themselves in the foot if they made any concerted effort to educate people in the name of fairness to Obama.

AllThingsKC wrote: LOL.  Yeah, 'cause I'm sure EVERY SINGLE DEMOCRAT has NEVER tried to lie, cheat, or steal to get in power, ONLY the Republicans.  All Republicans are evil.   Every single Democrat is so honest and full of grace that they only care about gaining power in a fair, honest way.  Sure.    Again, I'll say it's call Politics and it sucks.