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chingon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:32 pm Also what are you guys on about with Denver and Nashville? Of course they are busier and more bustling than KC. Those are not peer cities. Denver is almost twice the size of KC. The difference between them is about the same as the difference between Denver and DC or Philly. And Nashville is not a city. It's a theme-park. Disneyland has a lot more bustle than Savannah, but...who gives a fuck.

chingon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:41 pm

GRID wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:03 pm

chingon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:23 am

JFC, what an old act.

What's wrong with impressing visitors. KCMO is a cool city that I think does impress most people. The central urban part of KCMO. The rest of metro KC? Not at all. What's wrong with thinking that tourists will enjoy KC more if they are not pushed to places like Village West?

And there is also nothing wrong with a big push to get things spruced up around the city. Any city that would host an event like this would spending tens of millions on just basic stuff like making sure key parts of town look good and don't have crumbling streets, sidewalks etc. Maybe KC has a plan for that. I'm just saying I hope they do. And that includes the area around the stadium. If they know Arrowhead is staying or a new stadium is going in there, then why not push for a redevelopment of the adams mark, install new sidewalks and landscaping in the area etc. It looks and feels so crummy around the stadiums.

I mean there is enough time to make I-70 or other routes from the city to the stadiums look less ghetto. 70 looks like hell east of downtown like it has not been improved since the 1960's. If Modot has a plan, get them to expedite it.

I really don't get why this is so insulting.

Fair enough, but there's another side to that coin. I myself can't imagine being impressed by Village West, but wtf do I know? I once had to drive 2 people from New York City around, for reasons that don't bear explaining, through KC worst ghettos, and I kind of embarrassingly apologized, and they were both astounded and had thought we were driving through pretty nice working or middle class neighborhoods and couldn't believe poor people in KC lived in huge, awesome single family houses. I had cousins from abroad here once and you would not believe the lists of places they wanted to go: Cabelas, a race at the speedway, a drive in movie, fast food places, etc. They raved about the blandest KC suburban shit you could imagine: lawns, cul-de-sacs, highways, gas stations.

You, in particular, because you know KC's best, coolest stuff, are unreasonably ashamed of all the normal, boring, unremarkable stuff about it. Everyone doesn't feel that way. And I'm not much on apologizing for KC's flaws, or even feeling some kind of twisted responsibility or shame for them. A lot of people here like it, and a lot of them like it because of things I don't like.

Another example that I think is illustrative: one time my spouse was giving a talk at the University of Leeds, and we had been roadtripping through Great Britain for a couple months before hand, which she told the students. During Q&A, one of the students asked her what her favorite part of the trip was and she said our time in Wales and the room erupted into undisguised disgust. One student stood up and stormed out, huffing. We had though it was incredible, basically undiscovered from a tourist perspective, and a kind of weird wonderland, and the people who lived 2 hours from the region thought it was a backwater full of misshapen louts that they were ashamed to have colonized.

WoodDraw wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:07 am The fuck are we even talking about anymore?

kcjak wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:11 am I hope FIFA does a good job with the local lodging and transportation. Imagine being a non-english speaker, finding a hotel in Kansas City next to a soccer stadium and end up with a Hampton Inn near Children's Mercy Park in KCK with little to no public transportation.

Anthony_Hugo98 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:47 am

kcjak wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:11 am I hope FIFA does a good job with the local lodging and transportation. Imagine being a non-english speaker, finding a hotel in Kansas City next to a soccer stadium and end up with a Hampton Inn near Children's Mercy Park in KCK with little to no public transportation.

Who does the responsibility fall to for leg work like that? The municipality hosting? Or FIFA and it’s affiliates themselves?

TheLastGentleman wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:17 pm

chingon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:32 pm Denver is almost twice the size of KC.

Hm?

chingon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:21 am

TheLastGentleman wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:17 pm

chingon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:32 pm Denver is almost twice the size of KC.

Hm?

I don't want to derail the thread even more, but Denver's urbanized area is approaching 3 million and KC's is 1.6. Their urbanized area is also twice as dense, plus the rest of the front range urbanized areas are close. The 1990s "Denver is just KC with mountains"-era was 30 years ago.

TheLastGentleman wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:48 am

chingon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:21 am

TheLastGentleman wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:17 pm

Hm?

I don't want to derail the thread even more, but Denver's urbanized area is approaching 3 million and KC's is 1.6. Their urbanized area is also twice as dense, plus the rest of the front range urbanized areas are close. The 1990s "Denver is just KC with mountains"-era was 30 years ago.

I thought KC metro was 2.2 million, where are you getting 1.6 from?

chingon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:21 am

TheLastGentleman wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:17 pm

chingon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:32 pm Denver is almost twice the size of KC.

Hm?

I don't want to derail the thread even more, but Denver's urbanized area is approaching 3 million and KC's is 1.6. Their urbanized area is also twice as dense, plus the rest of the front range urbanized areas are close. The 1990s "Denver is just KC with mountains"-era was 30 years ago.