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Re: Hyperloop between KC and STL
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:37 am
by DaveKCMO
https://virginhyperloop.com/press/west-virginia-hcc
“Today is one of the most exciting days in Virgin Hyperloop’s history,” said Sir Richard Branson, Founder of the Virgin Group. “The Hyperloop Certification Center is the start of the hyperloop journey for West Virginia, for the United States, and for the world. We’re one step closer to making hyperloop travel a reality for people everywhere.”
Re: Hyperloop between KC and STL
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:45 am
by normalthings
DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:37 am
https://virginhyperloop.com/press/west-virginia-hcc
“Today is one of the most exciting days in Virgin Hyperloop’s history,” said Sir Richard Branson, Founder of the Virgin Group. “The Hyperloop Certification Center is the start of the hyperloop journey for West Virginia, for the United States, and for the world. We’re one step closer to making hyperloop travel a reality for people everywhere.”
Wonderful, now Missouri can get serious about trains and not this scam.
Re: Hyperloop between KC and STL
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:58 pm
by DaveKCMO
This is just the certification center, not the revenue route (which is still alive).
Re: Hyperloop between KC and STL
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:26 am
by normalthings
DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:58 pm
This is just the certification center, not the revenue route (which is still alive).
An Urban STL poster said that the main proponent in Missouri lost funding and the group's leader left.
Re: Hyperloop between KC and STL
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:38 pm
by normalthings
DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:58 pm
This is just the certification center, not the revenue route (which is still alive).
News from STL is that only KC Tech Council backed a route from Kansas CIty to STL. STL put their weight behind a route to Chicago (and are blaming KC for their loss).
St. Louis pitched a site near St. Louis Lambert International Airport for the testing center, with a track running along Interstate 270 toward the Chain of Rocks Bridge. In that scenario, a commercial route would run to Chicago, possibly even to O'Hare or Midway international airports, Smith said, adding that the Illinois Department of Transportation and Chicago Metropolitan Agency for Planning expressed interest in such a plan.
Kansas City also submitted a bid, through the KC Tech Council, envisioning a commercial route between Kansas City and St. Louis. That further complicated state support. Having two bids in one state "limits the ability of the state to fully commit," Smith said.
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... ailed.html
Re: Hyperloop between KC and STL
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:49 pm
by Chris Stritzel
The blame game is strong with this one.
I'm honestly not disappointed. It's crazy expensive and it's unproven technology. We need to focus and invest in our passenger rail service here before we even consider a tube.
Re: Hyperloop between KC and STL
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:18 pm
by TheLastGentleman
If tech like that could replace plain old decent rail service, I think we would've seen it in places like Japan or Europe by now.
Re: Hyperloop between KC and STL
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:30 pm
by tower
Everyone involved in this bid should have known it was ridiculous, but this would have been so transformative that they deluded themselves into thinking there was a chance. Now they are looking for something to blame. This reminds me of the Amazon HQ2 thing, except offices are a technology that actually exist.
Re: Hyperloop between KC and STL
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:28 pm
by brewcrew1000
Hyperloop Company shutting down. Musk is starting to look kind of like a snakeoil salesman
Re: Hyperloop between KC and STL
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:00 pm
by TheLastGentleman
Here’s hoping the tech bros and self-described Futurists can become obsessed with real high speed rail now
Re: Hyperloop between KC and STL
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:01 pm
by DaveKCMO
brewcrew1000 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:28 pm
Hyperloop Company shutting down. Musk is starting to look kind of like a snakeoil salesman
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... nt-transit
Re: Hyperloop between KC and STL
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:05 pm
by brewcrew1000
Is this actually a different company? I didn't realize there were more then one hyperloop companies
Re: Hyperloop between KC and STL
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 8:26 pm
by Chris Stritzel
Good that this is now fully dying. I can't see how anyone would take this as a legitimate transportation service if it were built. Between the speed, windowless capsules, and the stress a constant vacuum would place on the tubes, it seemed like a disaster waiting to happen.
Re: Hyperloop between KC and STL
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:03 pm
by DColeKC
brewcrew1000 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:05 pm
Is this actually a different company? I didn't realize there were more then one hyperloop companies
Musk promoted the technology and is having success with his Boring Company's tunnels. As far as I know, he has nothing to do with Hyperloop One.
Also, he's an inventor so he's going to have more failures than successes. At least he's trying to do things that IF they work, will truly help humanity. I don't understand the hate he gets.
Re: Hyperloop between KC and STL
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:53 am
by smh
I wish Missouri would take some of the work it commissioned on Hyperloop feasibility and carry it forward in studying new rail options between KC and STL. I'm not certain what the work product was from those efforts, but surely some of it could be reused in the future (not the vacuum tube parts, haha).
Re: Hyperloop between KC and STL
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:59 am
by smh
DColeKC wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:03 pm
brewcrew1000 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:05 pm
Is this actually a different company? I didn't realize there were more then one hyperloop companies
Musk promoted the technology and is having success with his Boring Company's tunnels. As far as I know, he has nothing to do with Hyperloop One.
Also, he's an inventor so he's going to have more failures than successes. At least he's trying to do things that IF they work, will truly help humanity. I don't understand the hate he gets.
You should check out John Oliver's piece on Musk that came out last Sunday. I think it explains pretty well the issues around Musk, kind of concludes with a "jury's still out" sort of take. Also isn't the Boring Company's main skill in building cheaper tunnels just that they are building them smaller and without appropriate safety features? Have you checked out the Vegas tunnel? It is pretty silly, but obviously if anyone is able to develop a cheaper, faster way to construct tunnels that would be fantastic for all of us.
Re: Hyperloop between KC and STL
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:12 pm
by DColeKC
Was reading about the bright line project and I know nothing about high speed rail.
How safe is it?
How do they prevent attacks? For example, only way to utilize a plane for an attack is to hijack it or plant something on it.
Wouldn’t the entire rail system be much easier to plant a device on? Have other countries suffered any attacks on high speed rail?
Re: Hyperloop between KC and STL
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:53 pm
by Chris Stritzel
It’s possible to mitigate a bomb/gun/hijacking situation on high speed rail. I’ve been on Eurostar and Brightline. Both require passengers to pass their bags through an X-ray system which looks for these sorts of things.
Re: Hyperloop between KC and STL
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:03 pm
by DColeKC
Chris Stritzel wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:53 pm
It’s possible to mitigate a bomb/gun/hijacking situation on high speed rail. I’ve been on Eurostar and Brightline. Both require passengers to pass their bags through an X-ray system which looks for these sorts of things.
But what about the tracks themselves. That would be a larger concern and easier target.
Re: Hyperloop between KC and STL
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:16 pm
by grovester
Not any different than our current rail system, oil pipelines or bridges and highways.
Combination of cameras, fencing and security?