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Re: Scarritt Building

Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 8:44 am
by Midtownkid
Ok anyone know what the HELL is going on with this gorgeous old building?

I saw some post online from an 'urban explorer' who broke into the building and took a bunch of photos. It seems to be going down hill quick. The walls are all peeling and things are looking messy. Some of the metal stair railings have missing pieces etc.

The post claimed that the project was abandoned and the building was 'being sold as scrap'. Fuckin better not be true. I hope that person just didn't know what they were talking about.

We can not lose this treasure. The tower and arcade are two of the best buildings in the entire city.

Re: Scarritt Building

Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 8:54 am
by FangKC
Copy the post and send it to the downtown police precinct, send a copy to the mayor/city manager, and the council members who represent downtown.

If people don't take action, squatters will get into that building and set it on fire.

Re: Scarritt Building

Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 9:26 am
by TheLastGentleman
Even mote critically, we don’t want anyone staying at the new hotel across the street getting struck by falling masonry. The exterior is looking rough

Re: Scarritt Building

Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 12:45 pm
by FangKC
If one was ultra-wealthy and looking for a hobby, one could fill time just finishing the renovations of Kansas City buildings with stalled development plans.

Re: Scarritt Building

Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 4:46 pm
by KCPowercat
They had new fencing up recently. Not sure if due to urban explorer post

Re: Scarritt Building

Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 5:10 pm
by dukuboy1
shame they can't get something going with that building. That whole square block from 8th to 9th ST, Grand to Walnut is in desperate need of development. Some is on the way but the North side of downtown in the former "financial district" is kind of derelict now. Now going South from 9th street is a different sotry. Just that Northern Edge is kind of a wasteland. A lot of good potential though.

Re: Scarritt Building

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 8:39 am
by Cratedigger
Sounds like the Scarritt building is finally changing hands back to the lender

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... 3&empos=p4

Hope this opens the door for the "cool adjacencies" mentioned by the 8th and Grand project:
At Eighth and Grand, BR is in predevelopment stages on a Class A multifamily tower, probably with more than 200 apartments, plus retail or commercial space. Cotton raised the potential for additional "cool adjacencies" involving surrounding properties. One just south of the garage, the historic Scarritt Building, was scheduled for online auction in October but has not changed hands. Its owners, Florida-based Augustine Development Group, years ago sought incentives for a $64 million project with 338 apartments in place of the parking garage but never proceeded to a plan submission.

Cotton said BR's project now targets a 2025 construction start, pending plan and financing approvals later this year. "You could see that developing into a really powerful corridor (along Grand) for Kansas City economic activity and living opportunity over the next five to 10 years, and we thought we'd want to be at the tip of the spear on that," he said.
https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... d-use.html

Re: Scarritt Building

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 8:40 am
by Cratedigger
Can't come soon enough for the building...
Meanwhile, DLP said in court filings, the Scarritt Building may be "teetering on the edge of a catastrophic event" due to deterioration and neglect.

In August, engineering consultant Thornton Tomasetti found standing water up to 16 inches deep on the building's roof was likely more than twice the highest load it would have been designed to withstand. The engineer also found fire-protective concrete had been removed around six structural steel columns, making a full tower collapse "highly likely" if hot temperatures were to weaken them. The building has no working fire alarms or sprinklers, evidence of multiple previous fires and an accumulation of combustible waste, according to reports from Thornton Tomasetti and the Kansas City Fire Department.

Other building issues raised in DLP's filings included precious metal thefts, shattered windows, mold from water intrusion and facade material degradation.
https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... 3&empos=p4

Re: Scarritt Building

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 9:08 am
by TheLastGentleman
Wayne Reeder’s ownership of this complex seems downright exceptional compared to how it is currently treated. Shameful

Re: Scarritt Building

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 9:11 am
by Chris Stritzel
Cratedigger wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 8:39 am Sounds like the Scarritt building is finally changing hands back to the lender

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... 3&empos=p4

Hope this opens the door for the "cool adjacencies" mentioned by the 8th and Grand project:
At Eighth and Grand, BR is in predevelopment stages on a Class A multifamily tower, probably with more than 200 apartments, plus retail or commercial space. Cotton raised the potential for additional "cool adjacencies" involving surrounding properties. One just south of the garage, the historic Scarritt Building, was scheduled for online auction in October but has not changed hands. Its owners, Florida-based Augustine Development Group, years ago sought incentives for a $64 million project with 338 apartments in place of the parking garage but never proceeded to a plan submission.

Cotton said BR's project now targets a 2025 construction start, pending plan and financing approvals later this year. "You could see that developing into a really powerful corridor (along Grand) for Kansas City economic activity and living opportunity over the next five to 10 years, and we thought we'd want to be at the tip of the spear on that," he said.
https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... d-use.html
I’ve seen the plans for this and have been briefed in detail on it. It’s a project that’s necessary to better reimagine the Grand corridor. Scarritt has a timer on it, so it’s a race against the clock. Any efforts on this block must prioritize Scarritt, but you’ll likely see two things happening at the same.

Re: Scarritt Building

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:36 am
by dukuboy1
really hope the proposed new residential tower goes through, and Scarritt gets the help it needs. I work at Commerce Bank and as I've stated Before, that whole block from 8th to 9th, Grand to Walnut, really needs some help. This should go a long way toward that if it pans out.

Also I know the Courthouse Lofts are done but that building needs a little bit of facelift, especially on the outside. Some better landscaping, little more welcoming of an entrance, something. The place looks like it is still being renovated from the outside with it's leasing signage and such. Very little curb appeal for sure :)

Re: Scarritt Building

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 5:57 pm
by FangKC
Some contractor/developer needs to form a structural triage business for situations like this. In Kansas City, there always seems to be an emergency where a building needs this expertise to salvage it from collapse or demolition. The City could contract with them to quickly swoop in and make the necessary repairs.

It's pitiful that the City is in such a state where it can't be more proactive about situations like this. The building inspection and codes department seems to be underfunded and overwhelmed.

It seems odd that the government can seize and sell a property for back taxes, but can't seize and repair a property to prevent a collapse from neglect.

Let's hope the Los Angeles-based BR Cos. and 635 Holdings LLC partners, led by Robb Heineman, who are developing north of the building, can buy Scarritt and include it in their project.

Re: Scarritt Building

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:15 pm
by Midtownkid
Anyone heard any updates on this? I'm very anxious for this building to get under renovation before it's destroyed!

Re: Scarritt Building

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 9:18 pm
by Chris Stritzel
Midtownkid wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:15 pm Anyone heard any updates on this? I'm very anxious for this building to get under renovation before it's destroyed!
I have conceptual plans on my computer that I was sent a few months ago. Pretty solid redevelopment plan. Won't go into many details yet, but it needs to happen in order for the building to be preserved. It'll cost a pretty penny, but worth it.

Re: Scarritt Building

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:39 am
by taxi
Chris Stritzel wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 9:18 pm I have conceptual plans on my computer that I was sent a few months ago.
You have... concepts of a plan?

Re: Scarritt Building

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:28 am
by Chris Stritzel
taxi wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:39 am
Chris Stritzel wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 9:18 pm I have conceptual plans on my computer that I was sent a few months ago.
You have... concepts of a plan?
Yes in ways that most members of this forum aren't interested in (more numbers and figuring numbers out more than renderings or specifics). I will say the conceptual plans talk about a hotel with rooftop bar and are recent within the past 9 months (not connected to the previous proposals).

Re: Scarritt Building

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 7:51 pm
by FangKC
This building would look good built next to the Scarritt Building. It's in Denver. It's less than the 18-floor minimum the property developers suggest and could easily have additional stories added and look good continuing the theme upwards. This facade would also look good on the Walnut side of the property.

https://www.dlrgroup.com/work/thompson-hotel-denver/

Re: Scarritt Building

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:24 pm
by langosta
Nothing remotely close to that is being considered