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Rabble wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:56 pm

langosta wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:30 pm

Rabble wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:04 pm Development in the West Bottoms, along with Berkley Park, will help finally return KC to a river city. Also, the connection to KCK's Strawberry Hill, new Kaw River levees, and the Rock Island Bridge conversion will help connect the two cities along the two rivers.

The empty lots between the River Market and the 9th and Baltimore area should be a more pressing concern than anywhere in the Crossroads.

Nashville has a bunch of pockets of development that are only just now starting to run into each other. Our goal should always be growing the size of the pie.

KC can support development in multiple urban neighborhoods at once!

I agree but the city should prioritize developing the vacant land between the River Market, 9th & Baltimore and the Garment district ahead of anything to the south. Not only is this the most embarrassing empty space in our city but the potential here is enormous. Every existing building in the area has been restored and retrofitted in the last 20 years and yet nothing new has been built. This area is far more historic and architecturally significant than anywhere in the Crossroads.

Anthony_Hugo98 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:26 pm

Rabble wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:56 pm

langosta wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:30 pm

Nashville has a bunch of pockets of development that are only just now starting to run into each other. Our goal should always be growing the size of the pie.

KC can support development in multiple urban neighborhoods at once!

I agree but the city should prioritize developing the vacant land between the River Market, 9th & Baltimore and the Garment district ahead of anything to the south. Not only is this the most embarrassing empty space in our city but the potential here is enormous. Every existing building in the area has been restored and retrofitted in the last 20 years and yet nothing new has been built. This area is far more historic and architecturally significant than anywhere in the Crossroads.

Blame Commerce bank and the other entities that refuse to relinquish the land for anything other than absolutely brain dead prices

Rabble wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:17 pm

Anthony_Hugo98 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:26 pm

Rabble wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:56 pm

I agree but the city should prioritize developing the vacant land between the River Market, 9th & Baltimore and the Garment district ahead of anything to the south. Not only is this the most embarrassing empty space in our city but the potential here is enormous. Every existing building in the area has been restored and retrofitted in the last 20 years and yet nothing new has been built. This area is far more historic and architecturally significant than anywhere in the Crossroads.

Blame Commerce bank and the other entities that refuse to relinquish the land for anything other than absolutely brain dead prices

I think the area is prime for some creative "taxpayers". The block to the NE of the 21c was on the market recently and another hotel was planned directly east before Covid. Some young hotshot developer, who will be around for a while, could get control of both lots and develop them in two phases.

The first phase would 1-2 story urban strip malls, built right to sidewalk. On the north lot, build a U shape building (or buildings) along Central, 9th and Wyandotte. Leave the north open since there is nothing there to face. On the lot east of 21c build an L shape building along 9th and Wyandotte. Fill these up with bars, restaurants, bookstores, barbers, drycleaners, etc. and create a real urban neighborhood. You would be able to walk from the Phoenix to John's with buildings on both sides of you. There would be a direct urban connection between the Garment District and 9th and Baltimore.

Phase 2 would be the 10-20 story buildings this area deserves. Until then, the rent has paid for the taxes on your land investment and you've created some retail spaces a lot cheaper than the P&L district. And of course all your tenants could relocate into the first floor of the new buildings. The steel and sheet metal of the strip malls would be recycled.

Shaun Crowley’s effort to help promote the local live music scene is landing in the West Bottoms where he plans to open a new Manor Records shop this October.

The new Manor Records is planned for the basement of what’s called the 12th Street Post building at 1501 W. 12th St. It’s a continuation of Crowley’s now-defunct record store in the Strawberry Hill neighborhood of KCK.
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His new place in the Bottoms is joining a group of makers who’ve set up shop at 12th Street Post including the West Bottoms Plant Co. and a coffee shop. The building was a former post office.
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The grand opening of Manor Records is scheduled for Oct. 6.

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Kerns and her daughter, Alexandria Snavely, are planning a combination bar called Fuego and speakeasy named Trago at 1412 W. 12th St. The new place occupies the corner of an 1880s warehouse at the foot of the 12th Street Viaduct.
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The Fuego bar area geared for walk-in customers will seat about 50 people and will serve Latin-themed cocktails including Amate Picante, Rocapulco Red, Mezcal Merengue and a Cuban Highball aka a Mojito.

The Trago speakeasy will require reservations and have its own entrance. The room seats about 25 people and will be separate from the adjoining bar.

Live entertainment including Flamenco dancers and music is planned on weekends. An open jam and drink specials aimed at employees in the food and entertainment industry are planned for Sunday nights. \
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Opening day is scheduled for Sept. 15.

The hours will be Wednesdays and Thursdays, 4 p.m to midnight; Fridays and Saturdays, 11 a.m. to 1 a.m., and Sunday, 5 p.m. to midnight. Closed Mondays and Tuesdays.

FangKC wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:50 am Who wants to bet drunk people end up in the Kansas River regularly when this place opens?

West Bottom’s business owners and residents may see a major change in the future due to the proposed “quiet train crossing.” According to the Federal Railroad Administration, a “quiet crossing” is “a section of a rail line at least one-half mile in length that contains one or more consecutive public highway-rail grade crossings at which locomotive horns are not routinely sounded when trains are approaching the crossings.”
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langosta wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:32 pm PIEA request this week for Somera

The developers asked for a 20-year tax abatement for phases one and two, 90 percent for 10 years, 70 percent for the remaining 10 years. For phases three through five, the request was for 15 years, 10 years at 70 percent and five years at 30 percent.

Even with the abatement, the project would generate $62 million over 25 years in revenues to local taxing jurisdictions including $37 million to the Kansas City public schools. Without the development, the properties would yield $3 million in revenues during that period.

Donchez said the first phase of the redevelopment was “almost shovel ready.” A schedule shown the PIEA board indicated demolition of the derelict Weld Wheel building could begin next month.

The city would begin work on infrastructure in April in conjunction with the developer beginning construction. A public square called Union Depot that would be the centerpiece of the project would be part of the initial work.