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Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:43 pm
by grovester
"Mostly", like Dallas, which is controlled by the private entity, mostly.
The north loop is time-lined for 15-20 years out iirc and would be filled in.
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:28 am
by KCPowercat
This should be private & MoDot funded only and MoDot ain't giving us any money for it (did they give any on the STL cap?)
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:17 pm
by mister816
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:22 pm
by TheLastGentleman
Where did you find these? I don't think I've ever seen a plan like this for the north loop before
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:26 pm
by KCPowercat
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:35 am
by taxi
The loop will be capped when the sun sets in the south/southeast, during pleasant weather – even though it may coincide with hell freezing over.
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:20 pm
by GRID
taxi wrote:The loop will be capped when the sun sets in the south/southeast, during pleasant weather – even though it may coincide with hell freezing over.
No kidding. It's pretty much a pipe dream to just to get the freeway capped/removed let alone build this fantasy stuff on top of it when half of the downtown loop is still parking lots. Modot still does nothing but put band-aids on the local interstate system when most of it should have been ripped out and rebuilt 20 years ago and they are going to fund this? I don't see this ever even remotely becoming a reality especially since Kdot and Modot are hell bent on spending money keeping the Lewis and Clark viaduct an interstate route. (which is stupid).
It would be so much easier to deck over a few blocks of 670 to get something started and even that is just taking forever to get off the ground.
I'm still waiting for a true pedestrian bridge over the river and a decent riverfront trail system. KC is probably the only city in the country that lacks such urban recreational infrastructure. KC is just not good and implementing these kinds of things.
Not a downer post, just reality. KC is awesome but this is one part of urban planning that KC is just terrible at.
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:29 pm
by KCLover
GRID wrote:taxi wrote:The loop will be capped when the sun sets in the south/southeast, during pleasant weather – even though it may coincide with hell freezing over.
No kidding. It's pretty much a pipe dream to just to get the freeway capped/removed let alone build this fantasy stuff on top of it when half of the downtown loop is still parking lots. Modot still does nothing but put band-aids on the local interstate system when most of it should have been ripped out and rebuilt 20 years ago and they are going to fund this? I don't see this ever even remotely becoming a reality especially since Kdot and Modot are hell bent on spending money keeping the Lewis and Clark viaduct an interstate route. (which is stupid).
It would be so much easier to deck over a few blocks of 670 to get something started and even that is just taking forever to get off the ground.
I'm still waiting for a true pedestrian bridge over the river and a decent riverfront trail system. KC is probably the only city in the country that lacks such urban recreational infrastructure. KC is just not good and implementing these kinds of things.
Not a downer post, just reality. KC is awesome but this is one part of urban planning that KC is just terrible at.
There won't be a true pedestrian bridge over the river until there's something on the other side worth walking to. I think that will happen as soon as someone realizes the potential of Harlem and builds a bridge connecting to Rivermarket. In other words, not in our lifetime.
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:52 pm
by WoodDraw
Isn't Harlem currently a pay by the week place for sex offenders?
I don't see that happening. I don't see this happening either, bit I applaud the effort and civic planning.
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:34 pm
by KCPowercat
Removing this from MoDot fiscal responsibility is the reason I think south loop has legs.
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:35 pm
by KCLover
WoodDraw wrote:Isn't Harlem currently a pay by the week place for sex offenders?
I don't see that happening. I don't see this happening either, bit I applaud the effort and civic planning.
It's technically an area rather than one building.
http://kcur.org/post/take-trip-harlem-k ... d#stream/0
The area would make a great place to bulldoze and redevelop. Imagine skyline views from a highrise there. Highway access is right there, it's really a no-brainer.
Google Earth screenshot from approximately 10-15 stories up.
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:03 pm
by flyingember
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:17 pm
by kboish
Apparently the Unified Gov (KCK) is formerly opposing the removal of the North Loop and has stated they will not support it through the MARC process. Their concern is the potential affect of an additional 3 minutes of congestion to the PM commute.
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:18 pm
by hartliss
kboish wrote:
Apparently the Unified Gov (KCK) is formerly opposing the removal of the North Loop and has stated they will not support it through the MARC process. Their concern is the potential affect of an additional 3 minutes of congestion to the PM commute.
Um, for real? Source?
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:21 pm
by kboish
hartliss wrote:kboish wrote:
Apparently the Unified Gov (KCK) is formerly opposing the removal of the North Loop and has stated they will not support it through the MARC process. Their concern is the potential affect of an additional 3 minutes of congestion to the PM commute.
Um, for real? Source?
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:27 pm
by DaveKCMO
Not gonna happen. Too much interest.
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:30 pm
by TheLastGentleman
Oh no 3 minutes
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:31 pm
by kboish
The chasm of benefits between 3 min of travel time for Village West dwellers and Billions in investment seem stark.
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:33 pm
by kboish
Also, maybe there is another way to affect travel times aside from highway lanes? Like, gee, I dunno build light rail instead?
Re: Capping the Loop
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:33 pm
by hartliss
kboish wrote:hartliss wrote:kboish wrote:
Apparently the Unified Gov (KCK) is formerly opposing the removal of the North Loop and has stated they will not support it through the MARC process. Their concern is the potential affect of an additional 3 minutes of congestion to the PM commute.
Um, for real? Source?
Jeez.